<p>How does one understand an organization when a candidate receives a letter stating they are not competitive on the Verbal portion of the SAT. (70 points off. Retesting has and raised a little but not to specs) Math is outstanding. Still waiting on ACT scores. </p>
<p>GPA,Class rankings, Physical, etc. are well with in the regs. Also, the letter stated they have not received certain documents. When calling the organization to confirm documents have been sent, the response is Dont worry about it, we are swamped with paper work and it might show up. </p>
<p>Is this to be a discouragement for the candidate?
How do we not worry?
Why do such letters go out if paper work is still to be completed on their end?
What is the protocol in sending a second copy? Wait for another letter from the organization?</p>
<p>it took 11 days for them to receive the last document of my file, and they sent me a letter saying I was missing it even though I had sent it. Don't worry, they really are swamped. If you're really stressing, just resend it, or fax a copy.</p>
<p>Try not to stress out, because you'll deal with a lot of stupid stuff in the army</p>
<p>You do not state what your verbal SAT scores are. The USNA admissions counselor stated to us that the minimum they would consider was a 600 on the verbal and a 600 on the math with a composite of 1300. I realize that there are current midshipmen with scores below these, but there may have been other circumstances which prevailed, including admittance from foundation, naps and the fleet.</p>
<p>If they are upfront with you and say your verbal scores do not meet their criteria, then they have already told you what you need to do. Go to a prep class, buy a CD, register for the online course; do whatever it takes to become a competitive candidate.</p>
<p>The paperwork issue happens because the notices sometimes cross the processing of the various forms. If you have kept copies of everything, then I would send another copy, certified mail, return receipt requested, so you have proof that they received the required forms.</p>
<p>Don't think of it as discouragement. I think they have done you a favor by telling you upfront that the score is not competitive. It gives you time to do something about it. Candidatemom has given you good advice. Good luck!</p>
<p>I agree. And don't even let your candidate see one frown. Just push for prep for the next testing. Continue on with all the requirements. The process ain't over till it's over. I agree with CM. Make copies for yourself, fax it, then send a hard copy via certified mail so you'll have peace of mind. I wish you the very best outcome possible! NO FROWNS! Eat more chocolate.</p>
<p>When my son had a 590 on the verbal portion of SAT, the admissions board found him Scholastically Qualified and he is not a recruited athlete. There might be more going on regarding Curious George's application. My son raised up this score slightly on the last SAT but this was after they found him qualified. He is going to take ACT instead in December though because his counselor thinks it just might be a better test for him.</p>
<p>Not sure what was meant by "more going on with app"? </p>
<p>Everything is complete.</p>
<p>STATS
Old SAT - Math 700 Verbal 550
New SAT - Math 680 Reading 500 Writing 450
4.2 on 4.0 scale
AP Courses, Physics, Calculas
Captain Football
Track
Student Govt - officer
more if you all want to be bored</p>
<p>AirForce web site says
SAT I Mid-50% Range Mean
Verbal Aptitude 600-680 637
Math Aptitude 620-700 658 </p>
<p>curiousgeorgee1: what we found most helpful from the USNA admissions board is that they were very forthright in explaining "why"....which gives you a chance to address it and fix it best you can....in this case, verbal and reading scores may be considered "too low" and place you at academic risk for what will be required of successful mids. The point is not to be discouraged, but rather encouraged and focused on what you can do to raise the score up to what they want. Not all <600 are recruited athletes...and while math is weighted higher (the academies are, after all, predominately engineering focused) verbal scores are just as vital to success.
As for paperwork, patience is key- keep in mind the academies receive upwards of 14,000 applications each year- all completed to varing degrees- so figuring conservatively, 9,000 complete the process, times that by about 10 pieces of paper per applicant, it's not hard to see that getting through a mountain of 90,000 pieces of information may take a little time-
so be patient, and while you're waiting, take the other mother's advice and prep on those verbal skills- no matter where you end up, it will be worth the effort! Best of luck~</p>
<p>Yep. You will need to qualify ALL three of those ways Oregonmom mentioned. Then on top of it, get through all the interviews and gain a nomination (unless you are applying to CG, then not). THEN DODMERB. Weeeee! Have you gone through that mess yet? What a ride! Anyhow, not that I'm asking you to post what your letter says, but somehow, I feel sure that we can't answer what you are truly wanting to know. We're just some parents that have gone through the process and gleened alittle along the way that may or may not be useful to others. Know this though. Some kid could have perfect SATscores, be president of every club at his school, a 5.0 on a 4.0 scale, even get a nomination. Sometimes, its a political process and no appointment is given due to that. I beg you to read some of the other postings to learn more about that. Hmmmm. Don't know much more to add that would be of any help here.</p>