Mocha -- let's think of schedules! (& current students: advice?!)

<p>I don’t know anything much about AP CS’s heirarchy, but I do know some people who dropped out of 19 (one really late in the semester, because he couldn’t pass it) who had gotten 5’s on some form of the AP. But I also know people who had only AP (not sure which test, though), who seemed to do well.</p>

<p>According to the Critical Review: "Students liked the course and highly recommend it, but firmly warn that one should have a suitable computer science background before taking it, and to make sure to balance one’s other courses that semester, with one noting to “think of CS19 like Organic Chemistry, and plan accordingly.” With these warnings in mind, one should “forget everything you learned in high school, and prepare to enter the magical and slightly trippy world of Scheme.”</p>

<p>The thing is, Scheme, and functional programming in general, is unlike Java or dynamic/object-oriented programming. You’re not expected to know how to program functionally: the reason you’re required to be a good programmer already is twofold: you need to be flexible in your thinking in order to do the assignments, and because there’s no java/c/object-oriented languages taught, you’ll need to rely more on your HS background for later classes, like CS32.</p>

<p>Hey!</p>

<p>what do you guys about this schedule?</p>

<p>ECON 1110
URBN 0210
JAPN 0150
ARAB 0100</p>

<p>Haha, I know there’s two languages! But I’m really, really interested in languages. Open Curriculum right? :slight_smile: Do you think it’ll be manageable though? I already know some Japanese and I was deliberating whether to go to 0150 or 0300, but I think 0150 will probably be a smaller, slightly easier class that will let me brush up on my basics.</p>

<p>and oh, to add on to my previous message, whats the difference between JAPN0150-0250 and JAPN0300-0400? Do they all have the same end-point and allow you placement into 0500? If they do, it’ll be great! It’d suck to take JAPN0150 and then have to do JAPN0300 the next year again before moving to JAPN0500. Kind of like nullifying the difference between complete beginners of Japanese and people who already know quite a bit.</p>

<p>Thanks! :)</p>

<p>Another CompSci question: Does CSCI 0170/0180 cover MatLab at all? I noticed that CSCI 0040(an Engineering core course) covers a lot of MatLab, but will I be missing out on it by taking the 17/18 sequence?</p>

<p>No. Neither CS 15/16 nor CS 17/18 covers Matlab. As far as I know, the only courses that do are CS 4 and APMA 16. </p>

<p>I took CS 4 last semester. The first 2/3 of it covers Matlab, and the last 1/3 is a very brief intro to C. CS 4 does not carry CS concentration credit.</p>

<p>Personally I think if you go through either CS 15/16 or CS 17/18, you shouldn’t have much problems coding in Matlab. It’s a pretty high-level language and you’d probably just need to pick up the few idiosyncrasies that are unique to Matlab.</p>

<p>I was thinking of taking…</p>

<p>1) Chem 33
2) Intro to Neuro
3) Math 18/35 - I’ll shop both. Since I’m not planning to major in math should I just take math 18? I got a 5 on the AP BC Calc exam if that helps.
4) Principles of Econ or a language class – I’m debating on continuing Spanish or taking beginners French. I’ve heard that language classes are very time consuming so I’m not sure if taking a language class would be a good idea or not.</p>

<p>Does this schedule seem doable? Any advice from current/past students? Thanks!</p>

<p>aimiee02: I recommend taking intro French! Language classes have a fair bit of homework, but it’s fun homework, and it will be a refreshing change from all the problem sets/science reading you’ll be doing. Intro language classes are so much fun in college! (Plus it’s a way to guarantee you’ll have at least one small class. Chem 33, Neuro 1, and Econ 11 will be large, and Math 18/35 could be large or small.) Definitely shop French and/or Spanish!</p>

<p>omg! I have a potential schedule</p>

<p>HIAA0850-S01 Modern Architecture
MATH0100-S01 Introductory Calculus, Part II
HIST0971D-S01 An Empire and Republic: The Dutch Golden Age [FYS]
RUSS1290-S01 Russian Literature in Translation I: Pushkin to Dostoevsky [CAP]</p>

<p>Except I also want to take a language (I’m torn between starting Italian, Czech, German, and Russian lol), so is it cool to wait into 2nd semester to do that? My high school had a trimester system, so I haven’t much experience with semesters. Also, which should I drop to fit in a language if I have to?</p>

<p>^That seems like a fine schedule to me. As to starting a language second semester, the only two languages on your list that allow students to start second semester are German and Russian (each with their Intensive Beginning courses). I’m not entirely sure about Italian or Czech–I honestly don’t think they do. But overall, I think your schedule looks great.</p>

<p>Thanks! I’ll see if I can take modern architecture in the spring so as to take undue pressure of my schedule :]</p>

<p>My son is kicking this schedule around. Any input?</p>

<p>Intro Ancient Greek
Latin translation class (either Cicero or Love Elegy)
Linear Algebra (or possibly Multivariable if he wants to repeat it)
Intro Computer Science – 15 or 20</p>

<p>He did get the FYS Bach which sounds interesting and that could take the place of Computer Science this semester.</p>

<p>Input especially as to whether these courses seem too time consuming together would be great.</p>

<p>i’m looking at concetrating in classics, focusing on the latin track and was wondering about the two required roman history courses CLAS 1310 and 1320. </p>

<p>This fall, CLAS 1310 is only being offered at the same time as my FYS Realism and Modernism (which I really want to take). It doesn’t show up in the course scheduler for the spring semester, but neither does 1320.</p>

<p>Does anyone know anything about these courses? How often they are offered and such?</p>

<p>@burry: Did you mean CS17 or CS19? (There is no CS20.) The schedule looks good. However, I believe you mentioned your son was interested in concentrating in CS. Unless his background is strong enough to place him out of the introductory sequence (and he’d have to speak with the department about that), he can’t take any of the intro courses until sophomore fall, at which point fulfilling the degree requirements will be a rushed process.</p>

<p>actually ignore my last post, the course announcement shows CLAS 1320 offered in the spring.</p>

<p>but does anyone know the classics department’s AP credit policy?
the website says that you only get the credit after completing a 1000 level course. it says an unassigned latin credit. does that mean i could use a 5 on AP virgil as one of the four required latin courses?</p>

<p>funnything, thanks so much. On the CS web page, there is an intro course listed for humanities majors. I may have gotten the number wrong. I think others (probably you!) advised that it might be better to take 15/16 in case he wants to pursue CS further. He has no CS background so he would not place out of an intro sequence. It sounds like they are fall/spring sequences so if he is interested he should start now? Does that schedule above (Intro Greek, Latin, math and intro CS) sound too rigorous to you?</p>

<p>thatsnotmy, I was surprised that certain departments give credit, but it does say a 4 or 5 in Latin Lyric or Epic exams would give you a credit.</p>

<p>burry, i was surprised too–especially for the latin track. i could possibly get credit for two ap latins (i took both literature and virgil) and could then (im guessing?) get a latin degree in six courses. pretty sweet deal.</p>

<p>I have a question too, I am afraid, about a schedule being overwhelming. I am a theater major, and I think I might want to take five courses this semester, but I am not sure if the work load will be overwhelming. Any input would be sooooo greatly appreciated.</p>

<p>This is what I am looking at:
TAPS 0030: Intro to Acting/Directing
ENGL0250F: Shakespeare’s Present Tense (FYS)
TAPS 0310: Beginning Modern Dance (CAP)
ANTH 1234: Anthropology and Utopia
COLT 1410M: Shakespeare and Philosophy</p>

<p>The class I feel least interested in (but I am still interested) is the Anthropology course. I feel like without it, however, my class choices all seem really similar to each other. So I feel slightly compelled to take five. Is this pure madness?</p>

<p>Generally, AP credit does not count towards the concentration requirements in pretty much any field. With that said, if Professor Pucci lets you (and he may, because he’s Professor Pucci), then you could potentially count the AP credit towards the requirements. With that said, given the intensity of LATN1810 and LATN1820, it’s not advisable; you’ll want at least 3 advanced courses before them, if not more. Then again, unless you’re considering grad school (in which case the Latin track is typically inappropriate), you’ll probably just take the survey course S/NC and save yourself a headache. Half of my class did that this past term.</p>

<p>CLAS1310 is offered every other fall and CLAS1320 every other spring. So you’ll have 2 chances to take each. Formally, the requirement is both terms. Professor Pucci tends to waive one of the two, if you want.</p>

<p>^Hannah: Honestly, for first semester, 2 Shakespeare classes may be a little much. Anthropology is the only “out-there” class for you, so personally I’d recommend keeping it. However, my advice would be:

  1. the Anthro class may very well be the hardest class on that schedule (maybe tied with COLT 1410M), but I’d still encourage you to try it out, maybe S/NC. I do not at all recommend taking an “easier,” but less interesting anthro class. I did that and it didn’t work well for me, because I wasn’t interested in the material, and the lecturer was poor. You don’t have to be intimidated just because you’re in a class with a bunch of upperclassmen.
  2. You can register for 5 classes. That’s OK. Use shopping period to whittle it down to 4, or if you start getting overwhelmed in the middle of the semester, or even right before finals, just drop your 5th. That’s why we have an unlimited drop period, so you can test the waters without hurting yourself. And maybe shop a couple more “out-there” classes if you’re feeling adventurous/intrigued.
  3. 2 Shakespeare classes and 1 upper-division anthro class will probably be a LOT of reading. I love reading for pleasure, and in high school I read all but one book all the way through, but I took 3 reading classes last semester (2 of which were probably reading-lite classes), and ended up just not doing all the reading. Reading is a really (at least for me) time-consuming task, and not as much fun as problem sets or dances or projects, because it’s a solitary activity.</p>

<p>Thanks. Yeah, I was not sure about that. The only thing that made me think it might work is that I had already a relatively large amount of the reading lists for the two Shakespeare classes. I just like the different perspectives on the reading. But, yeah, I think I might register for the five and then look to drop one if I either don’t like one or it’s too much work. Thank you for the advice. I appreciate it greatly!</p>