Mocha -- let's think of schedules! (& current students: advice?!)

<p>^ go back a few pages</p>

<p>^you may not NEED to take math next semester to stay on schedule, especially if you’ve done calc BC, in which case you could choose Math 20 in the spring. Though math is definitely important. And you’ll probably have to take CS4 for EE anyways, so you’ll get a “taste” of CS in the spring (admittedly, not the same as the intro courses).</p>

<p>I’m in a very similar position. I’m thinking of doing engineering, and it has a lot of required introductory courses. I’m also interested in CompSci, and I want to know whether I would want to study that instead. I think I’m going to take CSCI 170 in the fall instead of Math, because I’m already ahead in math. I want to get a taste of everything and leave my options open.</p>

<p>anon345, the engineering core curriculum has a CS requirement, so you can skip chem this semester if you take a CS course. If you don’t want to skip math, you could drop chem and opt for a course like math 20 instead.</p>

<p>It’s worth noting, though, that the requirement is specifically CSCI0040, so it’d probably be beneficial to speak with a concentration advisor to make sure 0170 would satisfy the requirement as well, since 0040 is geared towards engineers and teaches languages and concepts not covered in 0170. If you’re concentrating in Computer Engineering, though, 0170 would be part of your core anyways.</p>

<p>Hi guys, I’m a prospective physics major, and I’m thinking of doing the following courses:</p>

<p>PHYS0070 - Analytical Mechanics
MATH0180/0200/0350 - Calculus (I’ll be shopping math courses) </p>

<p>and 2 (maybe 3?) out of these 4 courses:</p>

<p>PHIL0540 - Logic
AWAS1600 - Astronomy Before the Telescope
ANTH1234 - Anthropology and Utopia
ANTH1232 - War and Society </p>

<p>My question is this: How difficult are these 3 1000 level humanities courses, for someone with little prior background in anthropology/history? And is my physics and math placement appropriate for someone who has taken British A-levels in both subjects? Thanks!</p>

<p>The math placement is most likely accurate, at least. “British A-levels and the International Baccalaureate generally cover at least as much material as the Advanced Placement BC course in the United States. Assuming that you did well in you course, you most like belong in third semester calculus (Math 18, 20, or 35). If your preparation is weak, you might consider second semester calculus (Math 10, 17, or 19).”</p>

<p>As for physics…I just skimmed over the syllabus for the A-level exams. The syllabus seems to have significantly more breadth than the American AP exam, but at the cost of much less depth and mathematical rigor. Nearly everyone who takes physics 0070 has taken a physics course that makes extensive use of calculus. I would get in touch with the placement advisor. It’s not out of the question that 0070 is right for you, but you might find you get more out of 0050 and 0060.</p>

<p>Unfortunately, I can’t comment on those humanities courses.</p>

<p>Having taken the A Levels myself I would venture that PHYS 7 would probably be fine for you. The course description reads “For first-year students and sophomores who have studied physics previously and have completed a year of calculus.”, which you have most definitely done through the A Levels in math and physics. </p>

<p>Anyway if you do decide to do PHYS 5 instead, as a concentrator, the department recommends that you continue on to PHYS 16 instead of PHYS 6, so most likely you will still end up at the same place as everyone else.</p>

<p>Oh and Logic is a great class! But it’s a different prof from the one I had last year. You might want to check out the stuff this year’s prof has up on his webpage: [Sagacious</a> Matter: Logic](<a href=“Philosophy | Brown University”>Philosophy | Brown University)</p>

<p>what’s the difference, exactly, between math 18 and math 35?</p>

<p>I did fine in Phys 7 (it was a difficult course, don’t get me wrong, and I felt out of my league nearly the whole semester, but I got a ton out of the course, and surprised myself by doing well). My only physics background was SL physics, (I got a 5 on HL Math, and also got a 5 on the Calc BC exam) and if you enjoy physics and are willing to put in more than 10 hrs/week, you should be alright. But be forewarned: the problem sets tend to be the equivalent of doing the math HL test every week (at least for me: that was the most difficult/interesting/fun test I took in high school). And being expected to get it 80-90% right.</p>

<p>*sorry, i was thinking you did IB, didn’t read carefully. Not sure how A-levels relate, but I’d suspect they go at the very least as in-depth as IB HL, and likely more considering the amount of time you’re expected to spend studying for them, so you really should be able to handle Phys 7 in terms of the material.</p>

<p>No one seems to have answered MarleyMe’s question of a few days ago. </p>

<p>I can’t give you specific advice about those courses and that schedule, but I suspect you might be overloading yourself. Again, as has been said before, 5 classes as a first-year is not recommended. Perhaps just take one biology class instead of two.</p>

<p>Another approach to those thinking about 5 classes – Register for 5, attend 5, do the homework for 5, as long as you can. For many people, after a few weeks they realize this is not sustainable and drop a class. Maybe you can juggle all the work, and will stick with the five. Sometimes that depends on the timing of the workload – if all five classes have 20 page papers/midterms due on the same day, you’ll know this is not doable.</p>

<p>@aimee02: Math 35 is typically recommended for Math majors, and is based more on proofs, and all that good stuff. I still have yet to take a class at Brown so I might be wrong, but Math 35 is reputed to have a very tough workload</p>

<p>@aimiee02: I took 18, and many of my friends took 35. There were also a number of people in my 18 class who had dropped down from 35. Essentially, 35 is more abstract, more proof-heavy, and more appropriate for those with a true aptitude for math. That’s not to say that you can’t take the class if you’re decent at math and enjoy it (no matter how good your preparation, there is a lot of work). But I’d recommend shopping for a while. If you like 35, stick with it, and if it gets to be too much, you can always drop down to 18.</p>

<p>I thought 18 was fine. The class wasn’t my favorite, and the teaching left something to be desired, but I certainly got something out of it…</p>

<p>So here is what I am considering. Any advice would be much appreciated:</p>

<p>ENGN 0300: Introduction to Engineering
Math 0200: Intermediate Calculus (Physics/Engineering)
CSCI 0150 OR CSCI 0170
ECON 0110: Intermediate Microeconomics OR ECON 0120: Intermediate Macroeconomics</p>

<p>Well my main questions are about the CS and Econ courses. I’ve read the last few pages in this thread, but I’m still not entirely sure about which CS course is right for me (I have no experience in programming, but would like to take this course because I might consider concentrating in CS).</p>

<p>Also, is Intermediate-level economics all that tough? Overall, is this schedule going to be overly demanding?</p>

<p>Thanks for the responses to my postings. I guess it is possible to take math instead of chemistry first semester. Isn’t Chem 0330 part of the Engineering Core as well. It would be tricky, but possible, to fit in later because the CSCI 170 is part of a 2 semester sequence, so I would have to take it next semester too. I’ve been wanting to take Chemistry first semester to see if I would be interested in Chemical Engineering versus something like Computer Engineering or Computer Science. I keep having to remind myself that I don’t have to settle on a major until much later, so I have time to experiment with different classes.</p>

<p>@Inert101: Both CS 15 and CS 17 do not have any pre-reqs, so you’d be perfectly fine starting with either. In case you haven’t already came across it, the CS department has a more in-depth description of both classes here: [Brown</a> CS: What CS Course Should I Take?](<a href=“http://www.cs.brown.edu/ugrad/whatcourse.html]Brown”>http://www.cs.brown.edu/ugrad/whatcourse.html)</p>

<p>And since you have 5s for both AP Micro and Macro, you shouldn’t have any problems going straight into Brown’s Micro and Macro, and you could do those in any order. BTW, Micro is ECON 111 (not 11) and Macro is ECON 121 (not 12). ECON 11 is Principles of Econ, which you’d presumably place out from.</p>

<p>In terms of workload your schedule looks fine to me.</p>

<p>Okay, the deadline is approaching, and of course, after having thought and rethought things a hundred times, I’ve come up with a(nother) potential schedule. What do you think?</p>

<p>RUSS0320A-S01 Dostoevsky’s “The Brothers Karamazov” - The Art of the Novel (FYS)
POLS1430-S01 Roots of Radical Islam
BIOL0030-S01 Principles of Nutrition
ITAL0300-S03 Intermediate Italian I</p>

<p>@Picasso: sounds interesting. Maybe add a 5th course to shop/start out with, in case you end up disliking on of the courses you’re taking.</p>

<p>Does anybody have advice on these?</p>

<p>ECON 0180B (S01) — The Welfare State in America
ENGL 0110 (S03) — Critical Reading and Writing I: The Academic Essay
MATH 0090 (S03) — Introductory Calculus, Part I
ENGN 0090 (S01) — Management of Industrial and Nonprofit Organizations
CHIN 0100 (S02) — Basic Chinese</p>

<p>possibly…
Econ 0510 Development and the International Economy
2830 Dynamic Optimization and Economic Growth</p>

<p>if something doesnt work out.</p>

<p>is it good to have a diverse set of classes for freshmen year?
i kind of wanted to take a lit class or philosophy but i was more interested in the econ classes.</p>