Moments that make you scratch your head during tours

Most of our tours were very small and personal, so the guides just walked with us and spoke. But at one large school the tour was equally huge and the guide would stop and face us to speak, but also talked as she walked forward. As a hearing-impaired person, this led me to miss some information. I ended up having to ask D or H what was said. So, if given a choice, I would pick small and side-by-side guides or backwards-walking guide, however funny they may look.

I don’t even think they look “funny.” What do you think museum guides do? Or private city guides? It’s just not anything even notable. It’s like noting that the campus has grass.

Fancy art museums like the Getty give everyone on the tour a wireless headset, and the tour guide uses a microphone that broadcasts to the headsets. I think that’s only for the outside tours.

For some tour guides, walking backwards is necessary because they don’t project their voices. My DD is always up front and wants to be engaged and some guides are hard to hear. I appreciate the backwards-walking-voice-projecting-knowledgable-non-gum-chewing guides very much!

I’m not sure what’s odd about backwards walking. Pretty typical unless it’s a very small group. It was the norm when I toured colleges too. I was a tour guide for a couple of years and we did it too.

I only ever ran into anything once. It was a sign that hadn’t been there the week before. :slight_smile:

No it wasn’t Penn it was Princeton. An amazingly beautiful school and of course an incredible academic environment. Our daughter applied there early was deferred and ultimately rejected.
At the time she was devastated. Now she is so thankful and there isn’t any where else she would rather be than where she is.

At Florida Southern, one of the seven Frank Lloyd Wright structures is the covered walkways. The covering is only 7’ tall, and our tour guide was over 6’. The walkways are pretty steep, so as he walked backward, uphill, it appeared to all of us as if he were going to bonk his head with every step. Nope, he walked backward, uphill, talking just fine. The optics to those of us looking uphill at him were a little strange.

And of course we were told at least 3 times that if a student entered the F.L.W. fountain (also called a ‘Water Structure’) there was a $500 fine and/or expulsion. I heard the words “Frank Lloyd Wright” more times that day than I had probably ever heard them in my life.

It doesn’t bother ME, as I said, I prefer it. But it seems to be a great source of either irritation or amusement to others.

When I went on college tours for me, my father was always looking for a “sign” that THIS was the right school. I was a South Asian studies major. So on one tour the guide was from India - a SIGN. On another tour we got a parking spot next to an Indian restaurant - a SIGN. On yet another the (non-Indian) tour guide’s name was
INDIA. In the end we got too many signs and had to go with other criteria!

@Greatkid “The most notable experiences were at one Ivy league school where seemingly for the entire student led information session she repeatedly commented about how unlikely it was that an applicant would be admitted there.”

I think handling this issue in the right balance and trying to be realistic, but not snobby or arrogant takes real social intelligence. I think that some speakers convey precisely the right tone, but may do not at all of the top schools. DD1 refused to apply to Harvard after her session leader was very snobby. I tried to convey to her that this is a very small percentage of the Harvard grads I have known, but 17 year olds do not listen to their parents. The Yale session leader was a fill in who just talked about “What Yale is looking for.” When it was over, DD1 looked at me and said, “She did not give me a single reason why I would want to attend Yale.” I think it is difficult for the AO’s at all of these schools to have a uniform product in terms of presentation and setting the proper tone. Trying to be realistic, but not snobby, and making sure that you convey clearly what the reasons are that might lead a student to choose your school. The Penn, Columbia and Brown sessions and tours were great when we were there, but others say they have different experiences.

Unfortunately, I think it comes down to who you get on a particular day and time. Ideally, it would not matter so much, but for many students and parents it is their only opportunity to visit the school.

It is unfortunate that the tour guide makes such an impression. We toured one school in April and the tour guide was a soon to be graduating senior. Most of the tour was her talking about how much each space meant to her (here’s where I have coffee, here’s where I meet my friends), interspersed with tears. While she was very nice, at the end of the tour we realized that we hadn’t learned very much about the school at all. There was no mention of classes, places to study, etc. D liked the school but we are left wondering if the low emphasis on academics is indicative of the school or just our tour guide.

The tour guides AND the students kids meet along the tours can certainly make quite an impression. But we’ve counseled our D to remember that just as the 5 kids sitting with her in a class don’t define HER entire HS, then the same goes with the few she might meet on a college tour. She had a tour last spring on which the guide did not impress her, but the school itself and the program she’s interested in DID. So she’ll apply, and go back for another visit if she’s accepted and the money works out.

At MIT, a prospective student asked: why do we have to take humanities classes?
The tour guide’s answer: “well, they’re not so bad.”

I quickly realized that MIT was not the place for me.

A couple others:
At Princeton, my tour guide clearly did not want to be there. She didn’t get excited about a single aspect of the school, and at the end of the tour asked “so can I leave now?”

During an info session at a certain school in Massachusetts (not saying the name cause I’m actually applying there), the admissions officer used the word “irregardless” twice, right after telling the group that there is no excuse for grammatical errors in our essays. My mom and I were stunned.

@Much2learn We have attended Ivy League admissions sessions and state schools. The Ivy Leagues schools were like “Of course you want to come here, this is what we want” while the other schools were trying to convince you why you would want to attend their school.

^^ It’s good to be King.

Our tour of Dartmouth was odd - after listening to our tour guide talk about the parties, another student asked, “If I’m not into skiing and I don’t want to go Greek, could I be happy here?” The tour guide cocked her head, thought for a minute, and replied, “I guess so.” That was enough for my daughter - we didn’t finish the tour and she couldn’t get away fast enough.

@bopper “@Much2learn We have attended Ivy League admissions sessions and state schools. The Ivy Leagues schools were like “Of course you want to come here, this is what we want””

I only saw this at Yale, and somewhat from Princeton. I honestly do not believe that it was intended. I think the lady presenting was inexperienced.

I know that it may seem like everyone wants to come to an Ivy, Stanford, or MIT, but the students the Ivies really want are often picky and only willing to attend certain Ivies, and then only for clear reasons. Many of these students are not very interested in rankings. They want to hear specifics about why they should choose your school above all others. If you can’t explain why a student should who has other great options should pick your school without being snooty, and condescending, you may be out of the running. Also, schools like Berkeley, Northwestern, Michigan, and UVA make a good case for why you should attend their schools over an Ivy, Stanford or MIT, in many instances. Ivy’s who think their name will carry the day are probably going to lose a great student.

I think that when Ivies address this question they need to respond as if they are talking to the daughter of the President of the United States, who also has perfect grades and test scores, or as if Malala Yousafzai is asking the question. At 16, I won a Nobel Prize, why should I attend your school above all others? If the presenter can’t answer this question well, s/he should not be presenting.

Our worst tour was at the Big State University in our state. We scheduled a departmental tour (10 AM) and info session (11) and a general tour that started at 12:30 followed by a dorm tour. The info session was supposed to be an hour long, giving us 30 minutes or so to grab a quick bite before the afternoon stuff. Weirdly, the guy leading the info session asked how many of us were doing the general tour - most of us. Good, he said, I’ll just lead you right to the starting point at the start time. Which meant that he gave us the leisurely version of the info session and gave us no time for lunch. What DS and I really wanted to see were the dorm rooms, but by 1:45 we were ready to gnaw our own arms off with no end in sight so we bailed and never saw the dorms.

I would be hard pressed to find a “best” tour, though our guide at Northwestern was a delight. We were very curious about the Ivy info sessions and tours as we know not one soul who has gone to one for undergrad
 nor even had a successful bid in applying to one. For the most part, it was both a comfort and a surprise to find that they were mostly the same as our Big State School visits, but Yale’s “Why I Chose Yale” video was a total breath of fresh air. (Though, as I’ve read somewhere on this forum, it goes on a bit too long.)

Sadly, ,though, our tours at the Ivys were a bit too touristy, and not enough “serious applicant.”

I toured Ole Miss and remember the tour guide telling a story about how they would always light a Christmas tree, but just realatively recently transitioned to electic lights instead of candles because they kept accidently burning the tree down.

She then told us how Ole Miss is considered the “Harvard of the south.” Hard not to laugh about claiming yourself on the level of Harvard after talking about accidently burning down trees year after year.