Morals?

<p>So, I'm almost done with the Fountainhead, and an interesting thought occurred to me. It's based on when they said Roark was the most immortal of all men because his morals and beliefs never changed.</p>

<p>What are your set of morals that you never want to change?</p>

<p>What are morals?</p>

<p>I don’t have any morals. I do as I please.</p>

<p>Come workers sing a rebel song,
A song of love and hate,
Of love unto the lowly
And of hatred to the great.
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<p>Well if you have no morals what are your beliefs.</p>

<p>Hedonism 10char</p>

<p>my set of morals that I never want to change is - not valuing morals and beliefs that do not change.</p>

<p>Is anyone actually open to being okay with murder/rape/slavery at some point in the future?</p>

<p>murder of infants is, in principle, okay by me already.</p>

<p>I am not open to actually being okay with that stuff in the future. my future self might be though.</p>

<p>Well, then I’m glad you’re open to that changing one day.</p>

<p>hmm we might be talking of murder of an intergalactic civilization that’s come to murder us, in which case I would say it is fine. So yeah, I’m conditionally open to those things changing. Or I’m open to the conditions in which those things are okay changing. But in general to not care about those things? I’m not okay with that changing in the future.</p>

<p>However, I would argue that they aren’t really morals, maybe. If those things were okay, society probably wouldn’t exist in the way we know it (in fact, the societies in which those things were okay - if they existed - probably perished, or were outcompeted by the societies in which those things were not okay). So can you talk about something being a moral, when it is required in order to talk about morals in the first place. Like if those things weren’t morals, we wouldn’t be sitting around talking about morals, maybe.</p>

<p>My sense of morality is somewhat related to hedonism, in the respect that I believe even virtuous actions are done for hedonistic purposes (holding open the door for an old man because doing something “good,” based empathetically on the understanding that the old man could not get through the door as easily himself, makes us feel better about ourselves).</p>

<p>I haven’t quite decided what makes a virtue “good,” worthy of response. I go through phases where I believe to varying degrees that they are either innate or subjectively defined. In the latter case, it becomes difficult to convince others to do what I think is “good.”</p>

<p>My philosophy is based in existential nihilism. I see no inherent purpose in anything, but in my experience, happiness is one thing that is truly satisfying, so one might as well pursue it. The connection between my form of hedonism, the exercise of virtue, and happiness is a little shaky, though, I concede.</p>

<p>I very much wish for the world to change in such a way that there is peace throughout, because I believe that the only way we can improve our surroundings, environment, and survive as a human race is by working together rather than blowing each other up.
Within myself, the only morals that I have lie in the belief that one should not kill others, under any circumstances. Even if said person has killed many others. Their life is still precious. I also admire those who are honest, loyal, and can keep a secret, and hope that one day I can possess those qualities without consciously forcing myself to. My morals as far as sexuality goes are loose, as well as language and substance use (though I myself don’t use often, for sheer lack of enjoyment - also, I’m busy trying to open the doors to my future). </p>

<p>I’m not entirely sure if I answered the question.</p>

<p>according to some quizzes I took in religion class my morals show that I’m a candidate for clergy and am 100% matched to Roman Catholic but I’m not Catholic</p>

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Are you Episcopalian? They’re very similar, being rooted in the Anglican church, that basically only split for a divorce, not on any fundamental religious differing. Greek Orthodox are close, too.</p>

<p>^nope and don’t episcopalians believe in gay marriage?</p>

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Yeah, I think there was a recent split or something over it. So I suppose they’re not so similar now as they were historically.</p>

<p>ya but I’m non-denomiatial Christian so I don’t know how I was 100% matched to Roman Catholic</p>

<p>Might not have been a reliable survey. I mean, do you think priests should be male, celibate, hold confession to forgive sins, are you anti-abortion, anti-gay-marriage, pro-social-justice (for poor, against rich), and all that?</p>

<p>Hell, I’m Catholic and not even I match up 100% (I’m fine with gay people).</p>

<p>ya I’m anti-gay marriage anti-abrtion and all that jazz</p>