More good bets for next year

<p>I have already posted once about the NACAC list of schools that have spots open at this point. I have noticed in the past that schools that appear on this list often accept more students the following year and offer more merit money in order to make sure they meet yield. At the very least, these schools will be trying a little harder next year to make sure their freshman class is filled --- good bets all of them.</p>

<p>THere are some good solid schools on the list this year, including:</p>

<p>Fordham
Willamette
U of Arizona
Rochester Institute of Technology
Clark University
Clarkson
Drew university
Illinois Institute of Technology
Knox College
Hendrix
Susquehanna
Hiram
Heidelburg
Xavier (Ohio)
Albright
U of Pittsburgh
Marquette
Southwestern U in Texas
Texas Christian U
Texas Tech
U of Dallas
William Jewell
Franklin Pierce
Hood
McDaniel
U Mass- Dartmouth, Lowell
Western New England
St. Andrews Presbyterian (NC)
Catawba NC)
SUNY Brockport, Oswego
Hofstra
St. Lawrence
Marymount
U of Idaho
Uof Evansville
Butler
Wabash</p>

<p>And for transfers: Notre Dame, Smith plus many others are still looking for transfers!</p>

<p>Full database: <a href="http://www.nacac.com/survey/results.cfm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nacac.com/survey/results.cfm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I think that Clark only has openings for transfers, not freshmen (too bad because it's a great school and I was thinking of suggesting it to a friend of mine whose daughter hasn't gotten in anywhere)</p>

<p>Glad to see Drew on that list. DD is looking at that as one of her "more local" schools. She seems to fit their "profile". We'll see as she took the SATs yesterday...how many weeks until we get the results????</p>

<p>Results of the SAT I and II's will be available on-line on May 23rd.</p>

<p>Are you sure that Marquette (in Wisconsin) still has space? That's not how I read the database: "none" for freshman admits, and "little" for transfers.</p>

<p>My girlfriends daughter said the Fordham forum on their site has a lot of kids complaining about being waitlisted. Our sons school had 3 taken and about a dozen waitlisted. Why would they say they'd still have room to take students? I guess I missed something obvious or the lists are off a bit.</p>

<p>I'll put a plug in for Butler, a local school in Indianapolis. Great mid-size, some very strong programs in pharmacy, education and dance, 15 minutes to downtown Indy, pretty campus, midwest nice. The performing arts hall on campus is where a lot of groups/shows perform when they come to Indy. D1 basketball in one of the most fabulous old time fieldhouses anywhere in the country (it's the one in the movie Hoosiers).</p>

<p>I clicked on Carroll College in Montana. First look was a pretty good one. I don't know a lot about it, but they have guaranteed merit and what looks like a pretty campus, rah-rah NAIA athletics, capped off by affordable tuition. I'll look some more.</p>

<p>Could it be inferred that a school with a large number of transfer openings has a significant number of students who enter as freshman and leave? Signs of dissatisfaction, or perhaps a drop in FA after first year?</p>

<p>A school has 1500 slots in its freshman class. It normally gets a 25% yield from admitted students so it accepts 6000 and then waitlists some more kids. The yield from admits and the percentage of applicants admitted are of course two entirely different things. It may admit 80% percent of applicants but the yield from those admitted - kids who actually enroll still is likely to be down in the 25% range. </p>

<p>The yield normally is pretty consistent from year to year but even slight changes can have a major impact. So for instance if that yield number drops from 25% to 23% one year on those 6000 admitted students you are suddenly 120 students light on your freshman class. A school might then go to the waitlist but 120 bodies is a lot to makeup for most schools. So they go a little light on enrollment this year and take a budget hit and try to make up for it next. Maybe admit a few more kids or be a little more generous with finaid.</p>

<p>The kicker for the school is the yield might jump up to 26% on more admits and suddenly they have shortage of dorm space and crowded classes. What you don't want to be is applying to a school after a bumper yield year because of course just the opposite happens. Standards get tighter and finaid gets stingier - and you may still have the crowded classes because of sophomores that got shut out of required courses their freshman year.</p>

<p>BTW yields typically increase any time a school moves up in the US News rankings and declines whenever a school moves down. The football and basketball teams post season performance can also have an impact. Overall economic situation in the country can also have an impact. There is also just a certain amount of seemingly random variation.</p>

<p>Consider this a plug for Drew!</p>

<p>Cur, My daughter's guidance counselor speaks highly of Carroll College for what it's worth. I have also met several Carroll College graduates here in the San Diego area who all praised it. One comment I remember specifically is that it is a very friendly school.</p>

<p>Thanks Carolyn. Interesting list.</p>