<p>was that meant sarcastically ? you really cant ever tell over the internet....</p>
<p>if not, thank you.</p>
<p>maybe this was right for you, i'm passionate because i love this school and would have done anything to get in. maybe you got waitlisted because you aren't supposed to end up there and your life will be better off going somewhere else. good luck.</p>
<p>sorry - when i was freaking out about results my mom started OCDing on zen stuff and fate....</p>
<p>no it was not sarcastic, truly congrats</p>
<p>you have shown that you are mature enough to take a step back examine the entire situation and then respond thoughtfully :)</p>
<p>thank you.</p>
<p>i appreciate that a lot. and i know you are just angry - i got deferred ED, and its a *****. but things will turn out right.. and you can always transfer. ;)</p>
<p>relax for a bit and take time to indulge your senioritis - i've been having it since soph. year ;) - it will help build your self-esteem back up and get you ready and pumped to do whatever you need to do to go to your dream school.</p>
<p>:)</p>
<p>believe me I have indulged in senioritis ;)</p>
<p>my feelings for washu are somewhat allayed because I already got in to some good schools </p>
<p>eh, maybe washu wasnt for me</p>
<p>HEY SEMPITERN first i had to save you from these people durinf the RD roster now this heh ?:D </p>
<p>lol just kidding dont you see a pattern now, barring some gr8t people( sarasvati:)) Washu seems to have accepted only idiots with nothing but the elitism of their university and their incredible personality in their minds. Phew thankgod that i was waitlisted or otherswise i would have gone! </p>
<p>Sorry but i was really irritated at some of these people's for their dogmatic philsophy abt college and life in general. Grow up guys!!</p>
<p>and btw best of luck to everyone this forum has been throughly entertaining.:)</p>
<p>adios</p>
<p>ha ha thanks nomad for your support</p>
<p>OKAY we all get the stats aren't everything...sheesh...I'm so sick of reading that. The reason people here use stats a lot is because it's easier to detail than ECs...I know most people on CC who have good stats are also v. strong EC-wise and probably essay-wise too.</p>
<p>and the fact is that stats are still something.</p>
<p>This is such a waste of time. Go to your corners and calm down.</p>
<p>Absolute nonsense. The kids they deferred at our school were super qualified in every way... Let's get something straight. There is nothing wrong excellence; being the smartest, and the most devoted to the school and commuinity, and having nearly perfect boards, grades, and motives are postitives, not negatives. There is nothing about these kids that should have a school defer them in favor of less qualified candidate. And may I add, these achievements do not come easily. Every kid who has outstanding credentials worked hard for them. I am outraged by comments which attempt to compromise adhievement.
Ofcourse, a school has a right to reject a candidate, but not by enticing and welcoming the students dishonestly. The fact which differentiates Wash U from Emory or Tufts is, they don't bombard you with enticements for their own benefits. In fact, Emory sent my d a likely letter saying if she didn't visit she would not be admitted. At least they are honest. The tactics of Wash U are questionable. Ofourse kids apply to schools with different levels of difficulty. The process is so unpreditable, this becomes a necessity. Everyone knows this. Yet you would think an academic institution would want to attract the most talented students. Well, their loss will be another's gain.</p>
<p>The problem is not that WUSTL is selective. And of course, we understand that people with great boards are rejected all the time. The problem is that they waitlist everyone; its pretty obvious that this is because they are insecure about their yield.</p>
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Wash U already IS ivy caliber. You can tell yourself you got wait-listed because you were "too good", but does that really make that much sense? Why would the school give out so much merit aid? And how many kids are actually accepted from the wait-list? Maybe twenty. How does this swing with the yield-improvement theory? I decided not to apply to any ivies to aviod this superior, country-club, entitled attitude that I see all over this board.</p>
<p>Which is not to say waitlisted students necessarily weren't good enough either. But there were 21,000+ applicants for a class of 1,400. If 500 students (like me) were accepted early, that would leave fewer than 1,000 spots for 21,000 applicants. It only makes sense that the school would be incredibly selective.
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I think it's important to realize that stats are not everything. Kids with 1400's and amazing extracurriculars contribute more to a school than kids with 1600's who are worthless and bitter. And the kids who got into Wash U generally had higher scores than kids who got in to Cornell. I got in to Wash U in December. I applied ED 1.
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<p>You're right.. my high test scores aren't everything. However, the fact that I've already be accepted or "likely lettered" to several schools FAR more selective/prestigious than WashU would seem to indicate that I was rejected for being overqualified (certainly not the opposite).</p>
<p>I have to admit that, although Wash U was on my son's long list, I'm having doubts about his applying next year. It's his decision, of course, but I hope he doesn't get too attached to the idea, as it looks like he would be waitlisted.
I agree with lifehurts - I would respect the admissions decisions more if they actually rejected these kids - then you wouldn't get this sense that they are playing the students for their own gain.</p>
<p>"barring some gr8t people( sarasvati) Washu seems to have accepted only idiots with nothing but the elitism of their university and their incredible personality in their minds."</p>
<p>Wow, that was a little harsh nomad. I applied(and was admitted to ArtSci) to Wash U but I don't think I will be going so what does that say about people like me. And why is Wash U elitist? I actually did not really reach out much to the University but just made sure that my representative knew my name and had met me. I didn't even call to get an interview.</p>
<p>I am annoyed at the waitlisting bit however. If it were only about 200 or so kids that would be fine, I guess they are afraid that a LOT of kids will pick other schools over them and then their classes won't be full. </p>
<p>If you were waitlisted and Wash U is your first choice reach out to the admissions office or something. </p>
<p>Don't bash just for the sake of bashing. BUT if you do bash don't do it to people on CC and just be mad at the administration. The kids that got in got in, they didn't do anything other than be themselves.</p>
<p>I will not visit nor apply next year to WUSTL. There are plenty of other colleges that will be evaluated in a fair manner without the widespread consensus that WUSTL's admission policy is linked to the latest US News ranking criteria. Besides, many of these schools have peer assessments that equal or exceed WUSTL's.</p>
<p>College is a business and WUSTL can define their rules and wait list all they want. They can also send as much mail to propsective students as their marketing/PR dept desires. That is their right.
I will discard their weekly mailing of glossy marketing correspondence.</p>
<p>It's been said before and I'll say it again: Yield is no longer a factor in U.S. News/World Report. Their policy of waitlisting people therefore cannot be tied to wanting to increase their ranking. You can either visit the school, meet kids in the community, visit some classes, and decide to apply, or you can choose to apply based on what some high school kids hypothesize about the Washington University admissions process. I'd choose the former.</p>
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curtisny you just demonstrated your ignorance by thinking that tufts is an ivy</p>
<p>ha ha ha,</p>
<p>if tufts is an ivy then washu is a good school
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<p>sar·casm (särkzm)
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<p>let's play the "stop being so salty" game--OH WAIT... some of you already lost.</p>
<p>get a grip. if you didn't care so much about wash u, you wouldn't be all up in our grills... nor would you be spending inordinate amounts of time on this forum like you seem to be doing!</p>
<p>so go back to being overqualified. go back to doing some homework or something and revel in your super-eliteness. meanwhile, i'm going off to some st. patty's day festivities. g'day!</p>
<p>and for everyone who's posting big responses to these salty individuals... don't waste your time. go back to being underqualified, you undeserving and subpar losers, you! (i'm just kidding, really. congratulations on the acceptances and maybe i'll be seeing you next year if i choose to go here... that is, if you all don't FAIL OUT OF SCHOOL FIRST since you ALL did so OBVIOUSLY horrible on the SATs compared to those waitlisted...)</p>
<p>What shit do you give? Wash U is a great school, it gives out a ton of money, and is on its way up. What, does bashing schools you consider yourself "too good" for make you feel better?</p>
<p>I don't know about Wash U. I have a few good friends who are going (both of whom are very smart, if you're wondering) and I was accepted and offered a free flight last year (I didn't end up visiting though) but I have to say it was the only school (to which I was accepted or denied) that left me with a bad taste in my mouth about its admissions process. It seemed to me that Wash U was stringing along a lot of my good friends who actually really wanted to go and then wait-listing them along with everyone else (though they didn't know that) so they were strung along some more. I got tired of the marketing and it just seemed to me Wash U was doing something fishy. So, while I agree that b@#$ing about not getting in is not productive I think that Wash U has a long way to go (and a lot of reforms in their admissions and marketing offices) before people start thinking of them in the same way as the schools Wash U likes to compare itself to. This is what, I believe, most people really criticize/get angry at Wash U for--I believe if the school's admissions office operated much more ethically/transparently, then people with very high stats wouldn't be so ticked off come decision time.</p>
<p>wash u is like that girl that flirts with every guy but then denies a bunch of them to feel good about herself.</p>
<p>my $0.02</p>