<p>Here's my take:</p>
<p>If you have HYPSM-quality stats and you apply ED, you're in.</p>
<p>Same stats, BUT you apply RD, you're waitlisted.</p>
<p>It's a totally rational strategy because they figure you really prefer HYPSM(or Duke, or some other), and since you have a good chance of being admitted to your Preferred school--WHY WASTE AN ADMIT ON YOU?</p>
<p>Can't really blame them. They probably have been stiffed BIG TIME by elite students year after year.</p>
<p>I don't completely disagree, but I think it's slightly more complex. I think great stats won't help you if you are clearly disinterested in the school, but great stats alone won't stop you from getting in. My friend (1600, 4.2) was accepted RD last year. The disinterest is more damning than the stats themselves.</p>
<p>I have actually read that 4,000 are admitted to fill a class of 1300- so an overall acceptance rate of about 18.5-19%</p>
<p>But also consider that ArtSci is harder to get into that the other colleges. Therefore the acceptance rate would be lower to the school that most people applied to.</p>
<p>hmmm, look at the wustl decision thread....that would seem to contradict your statement that most ppl with 1500's got accepted....</p>
<p>how many accepted people replied to the thread .....under 100 right?</p>
<p>how many people were accepted? approx. 4000</p>
<p>that means we don't know anything about the stats of over 3900 people</p>
<p>obviously you can't tell general stats by CC replies</p>
<p>so where exactly is your broad, vague, and assuming statement that most with 1500's coming from? At the very least I am judging from a sample, as opposed to nothing at all....</p>
<p>*most with 1500's got in</p>
<p>You have to admit though, 1.5 % (going off of 60 reported..it was a guess as to how many acceptees are on the thread) is an incredibly weak sample. As well as the fact that the last time I checked, I was never the one who said that everyone or "most" with 1500's got in. But if I do remember correctly, and I could be wrong on this - the promotional letters stated that the avg. SAT was very close to 1500.</p>
<p>regardless.... (if you haven't been reading this post- i think you should go back) scores arent everything and are becoming continually less important in admissions..who cares if the average student got in on a 1350 - something else (usually quantified over more than 3 hours on a Sat.) about them appealed to wash u, and they did get in for that reason. </p>
<p>it's a dead argument.</p>
<p>agreed....I was originally merely contesting the statement that most with 1500's got in. somehow you seem to have interpreted my statement as an indignant complaint. anyways, I think cc kids tend to have excellent and thorough apps, and would still believe that judging from the thread that the statement that most kids with a 1500 got in is false and unfounded. wustl is a great school and very difficult to get into, which seems to havfe surprised many of cc's statistically enriched members</p>
<p>whoops... you're totally right. Sorry for being so stupid. :( Anyways, does it really matter if WashU is a good or bad school? I'm just happy I got in.</p>
<p>i hate washington in st louis...i regret that i ever applied. their admissions stradegies are shady and i do not appreciate getting mail from them for three years and a letter saying i am the type of person to succeed and then not get in! juniors: do NOT apply to this school!</p>
<p>nita: I'm sorry that happened to you, but every school does that. Every Ivy sent me applications without any contact on my part. And while I defend WashU's admissions strategies, your opinion of the school shouldn't depend on the admissions office.</p>
<p>This has been an interesting thread in which I have wasted 60 minutes of my life which I will never get back. Nonetheless, it has been fun.</p>
<p>These are the conclusions I have drawn:</p>
<ol>
<li><p>You will not draw conclusions about the general college admissions process through the 20 or so kids on this thread, along with the 20 or so kids you know from school that have gone through the Wash U process. With 21,000 kids, do not think that you are some special fish that is destined to go anywhere. </p></li>
<li><p>Wash U, Cornell = both great schools.</p></li>
<li><p>Yield is not part of the college ranking.</p></li>
<li><p>There are always jawdroppers in college admissions. A personal story from someone that knows Yale admissions: each admmission officer selects apps that they represent to the final board of admissions to help decide. One officer did not select a very qualified girl simply because the head admissions officer did not like horseback riding.
Example 2 - admitted to Princeton, rejected by Duke.</p></li>
<li><p>There are too many underlying factors: race, money, prestige, athletics, and legacy. Unless these are somehow posted on here, I dont think anyone has the knowledge to justify anything.</p></li>
</ol>
<p>These are my summarized comments. Good luck to everyone next year.</p>
<p>the user "hello" is the ****....i have read almost every post under this topic and in only a few sentences, that user summed up all the junk the rest of you guys argue over....thanks "hello"</p>
<p>ya know, it'll be interesting to see some of you at Wash u next year if i go lol...</p>
<p>i got waitlisted at washu. it was a shocked. i thought it was a shoo-in. i thought it was a SAFETY!!!!!!!!!! dammmmn there goes my saftey school</p>
<p>Quote from nitabonita1225 - i hate washington in st louis...i regret that i ever applied. their admissions stradegies are shady and i do not appreciate getting mail from them for three years and a letter saying i am the type of person to succeed and then not get in! juniors: do NOT apply to this school! </p>
<p>I tried to ignore this comment, but it kept bothering me, so I felt I had to address it.
First of all, for you juniors, ignore nitabonita1225. This student is obviously angry and has nowhere to vent his/her anger except towards the source: Wash U. If nita vented that anger in a sport or on a younger sibling, it'd be more appropriate. No 17 year old has enough experience to fully understand the college admission process, so I doubt you have the knowledge to consider Wash U "shady". </p>
<p>If a student actually thinks the letters from a university are personal, boy do you have a lot to learn. These are standard letters, if you get 1200+ sat for example, you get a letter from Nwestern, Notre Dame, etc. Many years ago, my cousin got 800 on math, so he got tons of mail from MIT, even though his verbal was absolutely horrible (just immigrated). The school may send personal letters, I have gotten some from professors at Wash U, but they obviously address a personal aspect in a specific case or student, in my case it was my research.</p>
<p>For you juniors, Wash U is one of the most prestigious and respected institutions in the nation. Just because their standards are rising and applicant numbers are rising does not justify anger towards their admission decisions. Work hard now, and a year later, you won't see yourself in nitabonita's shoes. Apply to Wash U because it is a good school and it has what you need. If you don't agree, then don't apply. Another student would be more than willing to take that spot. About 21,000 to be exact.</p>
<p>actually lol helloall thats bad advice. </p>
<p>if u really want to get into washu, id suggest that you visit. visiting washu is more important than anything and its almost guaranteed admission. all my friends ranging from 1250-1340 (9 of which) really wanted to go and visited and were accepted, those who did not visit, didnt know much of the school, and just randomly applied were all rejected. washu is really careful about its yield (since 26% is very very low) and really wants to make sure you are serious about washu. </p>
<p>another way is to express interest thru the ED I or II, definitely take advantage of these. if u dont and are using washu as a safety, really make ur essays more personal/pertinent towards washu. washu us an excellent school but is obviously not nearly as selective as many other schools of its caliber and as a result needs proof of interest. </p>
<p>juniors: just think this, "i am interested" and if u expand on that u will be fine</p>
<p>and helloall and others, whether u want to admit it or not, washu does indeed waitlist those that are very qualified and do not express interest and i believe it has all the right in doing so, but many consider this tactic shady and sketchy, but its their choice and thats what they do. so everyone just tough it up if u were waitlisted im sry and if u were accepted congratulations and u will love washu, it really is wonderful</p>
<p>Which part is bad advice?</p>
<p>I told juniors to apply to a school based on what it offers and whether it is a good fit, instead of basing it on the number of brochures it sends.</p>