Most overrated/underrated school on the USNWR?

<p>johns hopkins is only good at pre-med if you had a ranking for pre med then it would be number 1, however this is an overall ranking. I doubt Johns Hopkins is world renowned in anything else.</p>

<p>gradatgrad and phuriku ... if this is going to turn into a Northwestern vs U of Chicago argument, please don't go there. It doesn't befit either school at all. There are enough schools on these forums where their students / graduates make a point of professing their greatness and tearing down their rivals, and it just makes those people and their schools look pathetic. Neither NU nor U of Chicago need to be among them.</p>

<p>OR: WashU, Emory
UR: Cornell, NU, GTown</p>

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o, there doesn't. For example, the Northeasterner thinks that Fordham is underrated. The Midwesterner thinks that Purdue is underrated. The Californian thinks that UC-Riverside is underrated. Now what? How is there majority opinion?

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No offense, but I doubt that most highly qualified seniors applying to schools remotely care about either institution enough to "rank" it. I have never met one kids applying to any of these schools and I think they are commonly seen as not that good. Overrated and Underrated works a lot more for schools that are actually national known, which every top 25 school to varying degrees is. Point is geographic regions matter, but there are still some overall national patterns, where certain schools are always prestigious. Forget HYSM, I bet Columbia is considered prestigious everywhere. </p>

<p>Also just out of curiosity how is NU at 12th remotely underrated, are people joking? Even Cornell is a stretch, calling it underrated at 14? Forget Cornell for a second, can you name one university ranked above NU that is worse than it? I highly doubt it</p>

<p>Overrated: Duke, Vandy, Notre Dame, Wustl</p>

<p>Underrated: Berkeley, Brown</p>

<p>Overrated:
WUStL
UPenn
USC</p>

<p>Underrated:
Berkeley
Michigan
William & Mary
Texas</p>

<p>Let me start by saying that I really want to love WUSTL. The problem is is that aside from it's premed program, it doesn't seem to have any amazing programs. For that reason, I really have to call it the most overrated school on the list.</p>

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Brown is absolutely better than Hopkins and Wash U and Northwestern, so is underrated.

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Also just out of curiosity how is NU at 12th remotely underrated, are people joking? Even Cornell is a stretch, calling it underrated at 14? Forget Cornell for a second, can you name one university ranked above NU that is worse than it? I highly doubt it

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<p>Bescraze, </p>

<p>Do you have something against NU? It seems as if every other post of yours comments on how underrated Brown is and how undeserving NU seems to be with its rank of #12.</p>

<p>Brown is in the Ivy League, NU is not. That is all it takes for some CC posters to become "biased"</p>

<p>I suspect that Joe Lunchpail also couldn't tell you where Yale, Dartmouth or Brown are located (at least outside of New Haven, Hanover and Providence). It hasn't seemed to hurt their well deserved academic reputations.</p>

<p>Whether someone on the street can identify a school's location has absolutely nothing to do with a school's reputation and, if it did, it would probably be a negative. Most University of xx's are decidely average schools.</p>

<p>wow, some of these responses/side convos. just make me LOL...
:D</p>

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I have never met one kids applying to any of these schools and I think they are commonly seen as not that good.

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<p>Well, you might think that, but rest assured that plenty of people in the Midwest hold Purdue in high esteem esp for engineering. Your little corner of the world isn't the only viewpoint as to how people view colleges.</p>

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"For example, the Northeasterner thinks that Fordham is underrated. The Midwesterner thinks that Purdue is underrated. The Californian thinks that UC-Riverside is underrated. Now what? How is there majority opinion?" </p>

<p>"No offense, but I doubt that most highly qualified seniors applying to schools remotely care about either institution enough to "rank" it."

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<p>So? Are only the highest qualified seniors allowed to weigh in on whether colleges are overrated or underrated? It's like the opinion of someone who isn't top-20 bound almost seems not to matter to you.</p>

<p>Underrated: Holy Cross</p>

<p>I was at Vanderbilt last week and they clearly are really trying hard to get their ranking up. they seem to be wanting to play with the big boys, harvard yale chicago stanford and all those other top ten schools. all the admissions stuff just gave me the impression that they are tryin way to hard. it was kind of a turn off
idk
it was weird.</p>

<p>Underrated: Most schools outside the top 60</p>

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<p>It shows a lot that you claim that JHU is not world renown in anything else. I'll give you a sampling of the top ten programs at Hopkins at the graduate level.</p>

<p>Public health, Biomedical engineering, Art History, Creative Writing, Egyptology, History, Economics, Biochemistry, Cell biology, Physiology, Neuroscience, Epidemiology, Genetics, Molecular Biology, Pathology, Assyriology,
Cognitive science, Chemical engineering, Mechanical engineering, East Asian languages and cultures, English, Italian, Near and middle Eastern studies, Astronomy and Astrophyics, Physics, Environmental Engineering/Geography, Sociology, Immunology, Pharacology, Electrical engineering, Human Development and Family studies, Classics and Classical languages, European Studies, French language and Literature, Spanish language and literature, Biostatistics, International Relations/Affairs, Nursing, Environmental Health Sciences, ancient history....all top ten graduate programs according to this site.</p>

<p>Hopkins stands on its own two feet, Hopkins is not just only premed. Hopkins has top graduate programs and is renown for its strength in humanities, social sciences, and hard sciences. Have you even Hopkins SAIS? It was ranked #1 terminal masters degree program for international relations in 2005 and 2006.</p>

<p>Chronicle</a> Facts & Figures: Faculty Scholarly Productivity Index - 2007
Chronicle</a> Facts & Figures: Faculty Scholarly Productivity Index - 2006</p>

<p>I agree with the OP that SUNY Stony Brook is highly underrated. They've had some amazing research done there and give their students an amazing education...especially for the price.</p>

<p>It's the bureaucracy and rather bland suburban environment that are bad at stony brook. Research and grad school is good but I'm not sure about undergrad.</p>

<p>It seems many people here think washington university in st. louis is overrated and a lot of people seem to be pushing brown lately for some reason. Let's face it, what people are saying is what schools they feel don't deserve their rankings so they should name a school that is better/worse than the school they're talking about.</p>

<p>By this year's USNWR rankings,</p>

<p>Overrated:</p>

<p>WUSTL
UPenn
Vanderbilt
Emory
Wake Forest
Lehigh</p>

<p>Underrated:</p>

<p>Berkeley
Michigan
Brown
UIUC
CWRU
Texas</p>

<p>USNWR really helps large research powerhouses that have small undergraduate populations, with more graduate students than undergraduates.</p>