<p>jump in front of a moving limousine and threaten to sue.</p>
<p>Money problem solved!</p>
<p>But I'd rather money didn't matter. Though it probably does deter many a would be architect once they find out the job isn't high paying</p>
<p>I was in a pizza/sub shop on a university campus last week and was just chatting with the owner. I asked him how long he had owned the place and he told me two years. He then asked me if I wanted to buy the place. I thought for a moment and told him that I've seen him there and didn't want to work that hard. He gets in around 8:45 AM and works until 11:00 PM on most days. To 1:30 AM on Fridays and Saturdays I think. He's got the pizza and sub monopoly on a campus of 5,000 students. There are three other places to eat (asian, dunkin donuts and campus dining hall). The volume in his place is amazing and he does an absolutely amazing amount of delivery (he has about five drivers doing delivery).</p>
<p>He told me that he's only going to do it for a few more years - it looks like a brutal job to me. It has the added advantage of being a half-a-block from the police station.</p>
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High paying jobs generally have some or all of the following qualities:</p>
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<li>Are boring (or perceived to be)</li>
<li>Require long hours</li>
<li>Require travel</li>
<li><p>Require a high intellect or have some other barrier to entry
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<li><p>Are very risky.</p></li>
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<p>I would agree with some on this thread that petroleum is a really good area to go into, it's something that this country desperately needs as well so there would be the satisfaction of knowing that your job is stimulating the economy and creating alternatives for Americans.</p>
<p>Physician.</p>
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I was in a pizza/sub shop on a university campus last week and was just chatting with the owner. I asked him how long he had owned the place and he told me two years. He then asked me if I wanted to buy the place. I thought for a moment and told him that I've seen him there and didn't want to work that hard. He gets in around 8:45 AM and works until 11:00 PM on most days. To 1:30 AM on Fridays and Saturdays I think. He's got the pizza and sub monopoly on a campus of 5,000 students. There are three other places to eat (asian, dunkin donuts and campus dining hall). The volume in his place is amazing and he does an absolutely amazing amount of delivery (he has about five drivers doing delivery).</p>
<p>He told me that he's only going to do it for a few more years - it looks like a brutal job to me. It has the added advantage of being a half-a-block from the police station.
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Sounds like a good way to make some cash as a grad from college until you land your real, intended profession. You never know..with the economy like so, it wouldn't hurt. At least you'll always know that money is pouring into your bank acct.
For your dilemma, hire a manager to keep the place up and running and to do the things the owner is doing atm. I bet a couple of kids at college wouldn't mind working at that place too.</p>
<p>A two-year degree beyond a bachelor's? Or, just a two-year degree. That seems odd since most places are looking for nurses with a BS, or more. And, what does a surgical nurse actually make?</p>
<p>All my eggs are already in the finance basket so lets hope in 2012 when i graduate things will be normal, and lets hope normal entails million dollar bonuses within ten years</p>
<p>Medical professions should be a safe bet in the years to come.</p>
<p>"A two-year degree beyond a bachelor's? Or, just a two-year degree. That seems odd since most places are looking for nurses with a BS, or more. And, what does a surgical nurse actually make?"</p>
<p>Don't know where you live. Where I live, they are looking for two-year degree nurses with experience. The only jobs requiring 4-year nursing degrees are in public health and school nursing. It is also much more difficult to get into the two-year degree program - many of those rejected go to the four-year program. </p>
<p>In big cities, surgical nurses can make $70-90k (I've actually heard more, but can't confirm.) My wife is a non-city hospice nurse (low paying as these things go). Two-year degree, 1 year experience. Makes $60k plus benefits. More than the median graduating engineer.</p>
<p>The truth is, because medical professions require a great deal of time and effort, they are among the few people who's pay is growing. I'm going into medicine for that reason and the fact that I like to work with people, am good at sciences, and that I want a gauranteed job.</p>
<p>Maybe that's the LPN? I haven't worked in a hospital for several decades but we had Nurses, LPNs and RNs. The RNs did the drug carts and were the charge nurses. The LPNs had fewer things that they could do and just plain nurses even less.</p>
<p>I'd believe the two year thing ^^^^. The medical profession has been changing and needs people ASAP. That's good and bad news, if you you think about it. My son is in his first year of a physician assistant program. At the end of 5 years, he'll be awarded a bachelors and masters degree and should start at $80,000. He'll be seeing patients and writing perscriptions, just like a doctor, but won't deal with being on-call.</p>
<p>there isn't such a thing as just plain nurses. To be a nurse, you're either an RN (registered nurse), LPN (licensed practical nurse), NP (nurse practitioner), CRNA (certified registered nurse anesthetist), CNM (certified nurse midwife), CNS (clinical nurse specialist), and RNFA (registered nurse first assistant). LPNs are at the bottom of the totem pole. RNs are the majority of nurses. To become an RN you can have an ADN (associates degree in nursing) or BSN (the bachelors). The ADN takes about 2 years to complete, and as a hospital nurse (i.e. working as an ER nurse, ICU nurse, med-surg, etc) ADN and BSN degree nurses do the same job, and ADNs can be the charge nurse for the shift as well. Both ADNs and BSN nurses must pass the same nursing licensing exam, NCLEX-RN, to practice. A BSN is good if you decide to advance your nursing education, by going for advanced practice nursing programs, such as NP or CRNA, where you can carry out many of the duties usually done by physicians, such as diagnosing, treating, prescribing, etc.</p>
<p>Nursing and other health care careers such as respiratory therapist, radiation technologist, and physician assistant are great because many of them only require an associates or bachelors. In the case of PAs, you can complete a bachelors degree program, with the first two years being pre-requisite science and liberal arts courses, and the last two years the PA program. Although it can be a bachelors level, PA courses are still taught at a graduate level, as you ARE practicing medicine (though under the supervision of a physician). So, in some cases, with a BS in physician assistant studies, you'll be able to diagnose, treat, prescribe medication, first assist at surgery, etc. You can do much of what an MD/DO does, but the more complicated cases are usually left for the MD/DO, or done with more of their supervision than normally. AND salaries are usually around 78-80 K average, with PAs in emergency medicine or surgical specialties (and with experience) making 6 figures. PAs can take call as well, depending on the specialty.</p>
<p>So yes, although you can do A LOT with an associates or bachelors degree in a health field, remember that you do have lives in your hands, which is also probably why the pay is higher.</p>
<p>We're talking 30 years ago and there was a category below LPN in the hospital where I worked. I do not recall seeing any Nurse Practitioners back then but we had respiratory therapists, IV nurses, radiology folks, etc.</p>
<p>We also had candy stripers (volunteers from local high-schools). My job was Ward Clerk - adding data to charts, ordering labs, going to the pharmacy, delivering patients to the lab or radiology, and sometimes bringing patients to the morgue. I worked mostly second shift which provided plenty of study time after the visitors left. It was a great job for students.</p>
<p>Below the LPNs are Certified Nursing Assistants (CNAs). They usually get about 90 days of training. Pay is very poor. </p>
<p>"The LPNs had fewer things that they could do and just plain nurses even less."</p>
<p>The LPNs are the lowest on the nurse totem poll. They can work after one year of education and passing a national exam. My wife did that while taking her second year.</p>
<p>"The LPNs are the lowest on the nurse totem poll."</p>
<p>This is true for all states going back 30 years?</p>
<p>No clue. But I suspect if it was a hospital, they were CNAs.</p>
<p>yeah i'm pretty sure LPN has been the lowest entry into nursing, unless you include CNAs which technically aren't nurses. There are also clinical technicians, which are a step above CNAs but below LPNs. They can start IVs, draw blood, do EKGs, oxygen therapy, vital signs, CPR, splint bones (at least in the ER), irrigate wounds, etc. CNA and clinical tech are more jobs for people trying to get health care experience before moving onto a career, such as nursing or medicine. Good pre-med jobs too (i'm an ER tech).</p>