<p>ringing doorbells. this guy told me had he like 1000 hrs of community service of going to peoples houses and ringing doorbells (jehovahs witness). i told him it wasn't community service because the community doesn't benefit getting annoyed and that it was actually a community DISservice. </p>
<p>no harm or offense to anyone who is jehovahs witness.</p>
<p>Question. What do you seek to achieve with this thread?</p>
<p>He hopes to achieve hostility towards religion,</p>
<p>and he has achieved it!</p>
<p>I invite them into my house and turn on adult oriented material and light one up.</p>
<p>hostility? uhh no</p>
<p>my purpose: share a funny story and give you guys a good laugh</p>
<p>Haha good one smug.</p>
<p>LOL nice. </p>
<p>But I hate proselytizers. I don't think there's anything more arrogant than going around telling people why your religious beliefs are better than theirs, and why they should convert.</p>
<p>^LOL</p>
<p>I actually had a good laugh when you clarified that "doorbell ringers" are in actuality Jehovah's Witnesses. =D</p>
<p>No offense to JWs, butthey are weird. Last one I met told me she wouldn't vote because JWs don't vote. Ever. I asked why and she said it wasn't "Godly". Of course I tried to tell her that if no one voted for anyone there would be chaos 'cause there'd be no leaders... I don't think she had a comeback but she didn't change her views either.</p>
<p>My vote for most ridiculous EC would be that old standby of years past:</p>
<p>"Member, National Geographic Society"</p>
<p>How about "Member, CollegeConfidential"?</p>
<p>LOL!!!</p>
<p>I ought to put that on my college application!</p>
<p>Honestly what would they think, the admissions officers?</p>
<p>This might be an excellent example of an EC activity harming one's chances for admission.</p>
<p>Eww I hate religious people</p>
<p>Though not a Jehovah's witness myself, I have had contact with many Jehovah's witnesses. </p>
<p>I also have (been forced by my mother though she isn't exactly JW either) gone to their meetings before.</p>
<p>Of all the Jehovah's witnesses I've ever met, NONE of them came of as arrogant or weird. They are the nicest people I've ever seen. My dad who is absolutely against religion even admits that they are very, very nice people. Even if knocking on doors seem rude, arrogant or annoying to you, they are really trying to help you. What they're doing may seem silly, but at least in they are trying to do good for the community. </p>
<p>Also, because of their personalities, many JWs are very suceesful. I know a JW who is the manager of a London Drugs, and many more who are CEOs and CFOs of companies. </p>
<p>So whatever bias you get from mainstream religion or media, if you actually talked to them, and listened, and I mean REALLY listened (not listening to make some smartass comment every chance you get), you may get much out of it. Weather they are the true religion or not, I don't know. But I do know that most if not all of them are very, very happy and suceesful people whom are liked by EVERYONE (at least before they find out that they are JWs). I'd take a JW over someone who claims they are "christian" who haven't read more than 10 pages of the bible anyday.</p>
<p>So please, stop harassing them.</p>
<p>Oh and the reason they don't vote is because they believe that "god's government" is the best, and as it's not a choice on the ballots, they don't vote. Ok, I don't exactly agree with that either, or not allowing blood transfers, but hey, that's their belief. They are entitled to do so. </p>
<p>And really, although no government is a bad thing, the current choices aren't exactly good either.</p>
<p>"they are really trying to help you. What they're doing may seem silly, but at least in they are trying to do good for the community."</p>
<p>that is highly debatable. i can bet the majority of society finds it annoying to have people come up to your door and try to persuade you to join the jehovah belief even though you tell them many times you dont want to, etc.. </p>
<p>"Also, because of their personalities, many JWs are very suceesful. I know a JW who is the manager of a London Drugs, and many more who are CEOs and CFOs of companies."</p>
<p>so just because you are a jehovahs you have a great personality and are more likely to be successful as opposed to non jeohvah?</p>
<p>"So whatever bias you get from mainstream religion or media, if you actually talked to them, and listened, and I mean REALLY listened (not listening to make some smartass comment every chance you get), you may get much out of it. Weather they are the true religion or not, I don't know. But I do know that most if not all of them are very, very happy and suceesful people whom are liked by EVERYONE (at least before they find out that they are JWs). I'd take a JW over someone who claims they are "christian" who haven't read more than 10 pages of the bible anyday."</p>
<p>thats just you. i listen to jehovahs all the time who come to my door and i read their propaganda pamphlets. i listen to this guy who is a jehovah at my school and he reads stuff from his watch tower book all the time. that doesnt mean i have to agree with him. good for you that you support jehovahs witnesses. atleast someone has to.</p>
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"they are really trying to help you. What they're doing may seem silly, but at least in they are trying to do good for the community."</p>
<p>that is highly debatable. i can bet the majority of society finds it annoying to have people come up to your door and try to persuade you to join the jehovah belief even though you tell them many times you dont want to, etc..
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<p>How much time do you spend associating with Jehovah's Witnesses on a yearly basis? It only takes a couple seconds to answer the door, say "I'm not interested, but thank you," and get on with your day. The only way it could take longer is if you choose to be rude or spiteful, which is just childish.</p>
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"Also, because of their personalities, many JWs are very suceesful. I know a JW who is the manager of a London Drugs, and many more who are CEOs and CFOs of companies."</p>
<p>so just because you are a jehovahs you have a great personality and are more likely to be successful as opposed to non jeohvah?
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<p>That's exactly what he's saying. Of the JWs and non-JWs he knows, he's found a statistically significant proportion of JWs to have more agreeable or pleasant personalities. He's also found a statistically significant proportion to have well-paying jobs. Correlation =/= causation, but with the limited data available it's something to consider.</p>
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"So whatever bias you get from mainstream religion or media, if you actually talked to them, and listened, and I mean REALLY listened (not listening to make some smartass comment every chance you get), you may get much out of it. Weather they are the true religion or not, I don't know. But I do know that most if not all of them are very, very happy and suceesful people whom are liked by EVERYONE (at least before they find out that they are JWs). I'd take a JW over someone who claims they are "christian" who haven't read more than 10 pages of the bible anyday."</p>
<p>thats just you. i listen to jehovahs all the time who come to my door and i read their propaganda pamphlets. i listen to this guy who is a jehovah at my school and he reads stuff from his watch tower book all the time. that doesnt mean i have to agree with him. good for you that you support jehovahs witnesses. atleast someone has to.
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<p>No one's ordering you to agree with anyone, but it'd make everything more pleasant if you didn't counter unintentional rudeness with intentional rudeness. Besides, time spent is time spent, whether you like its purpose or not. By your argument in the OP, one could conclude that a person could count political campaigning if it were for a Democrat but not if it were for a Republican (or vice versa).</p>
<p>This is all coming from an avowed atheist.</p>
<p>we all beleive something even if that something is nothing it is a belife and should not be so arogant and think we are better 4 our beliefes...now if u wanna think ur better becuase u can spell and i can not im ok with that becuase that would be most likely true :)</p>
<p>"That's exactly what he's saying. Of the JWs and non-JWs he knows, he's found a statistically significant proportion of JWs to have more agreeable or pleasant personalities. He's also found a statistically significant proportion to have well-paying jobs. Correlation =/= causation, but with the limited data available it's something to consider."</p>
<p>thats merely from his own observations unless he actually has data or proof done by leading researchers then i will dismiss his claim. </p>
<p>"How much time do you spend associating with Jehovah's Witnesses on a yearly basis? It only takes a couple seconds to answer the door, say "I'm not interested, but thank you," and get on with your day. The only way it could take longer is if you choose to be rude or spiteful, which is just childish."</p>
<p>they come to my door once every month. do you know whats annoying? the fact that you tell them you have no interest what so ever and they keep coming, keep bothering, keep trying to persaude me, and keep wasting my time. now a days i just open the door and close the door on them. you might find this rude but i find it as a great way to know i am really not interested. </p>
<p>now of course this is all coming from a catholic who has told jehovahs that i am not interested in hearing their criticism of my religion or any other religion.</p>
<p>oh yeah to add to that, my jewish friends tell me that jehovahs purposely come to their jewish neighborhoods more often once they told them "No thanks we are jewish". so everyone heed this advice, just slam the door on them and threaten to call the cops.</p>
<p>my sisters bf is a jw and hes cool...i also think alot of people seem to be going bye the way a certaint jw acted insted of relizing that they are human and all act diffrent just like the rest of us...my sister bf just does what his religion says to do...we should not get mad becuase of that...btw he is great freinds with my freind jj and she is a jew so yeah</p>
<p>Ringing people's doorbells and handing out propaganda should NEVER count as an EC.
It's not productive, it doesn't really help anybody, and it doesn't prove that you are college material.</p>
<p>Taking a club like community service, or learning a trade or skill would count as an EC.
Not much else.</p>