<p>ilovecalifornia has a good point, i wouldnt want other people screwing up the system when its meant for us californians!</p>
<p>O/P, if you live in Virginia, then you would evetually have to move to so cal in order to work in film. SO, just go ahead and move there now if you can pull it off.</p>
<p>mojojojo69, ilovecalifornia - Honestly, get over yourselves. Just because I'm not a resident doesn't mean I shouldn't have the chance to live out my dreams of going to a college I've wanted to go to since I was small. </p>
<p>Thanks everyone else, though. I've looked for CCC that have agreements with USC and UCLA, and I haven't found anything about it.</p>
<p>the film programs at USC and UCLA are both unbelievably competitive. For USC in-state out-of state doesn't have much of a bearing on anything. For UCLA, in-state would make it easier to get into UCLA in general but not the film program. With the film program to either of these schools ur supplemental materials will determine if you get in or not, not whether you have residency in California.</p>
<p>But, there is Cal Arts and other more artistic schools over in so cal. You can also work a BA of Liberal Studies and have your major focus be film. More than one way to skin a cat with schooling.</p>
<p>I think that OP should not give up hope on anything, because they will have to move from Virginia anyway in order to study and eventually work in film. </p>
<p>I do not understand why anyone from as big a state as California would care if someone is moving there in order to obtain schooling and wants to work hard at a Community College which has a University parallel program with certain schools. OP has good initiative and good goals, so why be mean?</p>
<p>Pay <em>careful</em> attention to greenblue's post re establishing residency. The UC's have very specific criteria for whether you will be considered in-state. Check the web sites and, if your goal is to be considered a California resident, make sure that you will be able to achieve that goal.</p>
<p>The ccc-UC agreements re transfer and the issue of California residency are two separate things.</p>
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I do not understand why anyone from as big a state as California would care if someone is moving there in order to obtain schooling and wants to work hard at a Community College which has a University parallel program with certain schools.
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The state and many of its residents care because the amazing value of in-state tuition comes partly due to the contributions of long-time residents and taxpayers of the state of California. Having someone arrive to do their last year of high school in the state, in an attempt to simulate California residency, is a big no-no. The ccc's are also historically targeted to the state's own residents and provide another excellent value. Whether the OP's plan will work in this context is an open question.</p>
<p>You're not going to find any CCCs that have agreements for film.</p>
<p>The programs at both schools are independant and not subject to general admissions contracts. So TAP for UCLA will help for the College of Letters and Science, but not for film (or engineering, or nursing, or design, etc). </p>
<p>Since both programs require that transfers apply directly into the major (so no applying and then trying to switch when you get there), obviously the agreements that you've seen people talk about around here won't help.</p>
<p>As far as establishing residency, if you moved here to START community college, you would be a resident by the time you transferred. However, you would have to pay out of state tuition at the CC in the meantime until you become a resident. Which is actually really not cheap. At all. The FAQ page on my old school's website says $151/unit PLUS the $26/unit that everone else has to pay, which is standard throughout the state. Just as a warning. </p>
<p>Community colleges require that you live here for one year and one day before the term in which you want to establish residency.</p>
<p>california sucks</p>
<p>or something.</p>
<p>I lived in Woodland Hills for a long while, and I think that the longer I live away from all of that, the more I learn that people in so cal are ridiculously elitist. It is downright comedy.</p>
<p>I say let OP try things out. OP does, however, need to be more realistic with their educational goals. </p>
<p>jmmom if someone re locates to So Cal in order to get in on really trying their best to further their educational goals, then whose business is it of yours since you live New England? Seriously, how is re locating in order to work hard at schooling going to drain the economy? Why would someone look at one who moved in order to finish their last year of high school in the same state their future University is in as a "no no"? I say that takes initiative and guts and I do not see how anyone would look at a young adult who did that as committing a "no no" and a drain on economic resources solely meant for California residents. Would you think these things if OP had a different view and was literally just moving to California because one of their parents got a transfer? </p>
<p>I am not trying to be a troll or personally cause you insult, jnmom, but how does re locating harm things? I admit that OP really needs to be more realistic, but seriously, let OP move if the want to.</p>
<p>I am not even setting foot back in this thread because it is really horrible how some of you people seem to think.</p>
<p>I've heard that you need to have been a CA. resident for atleast 1 year (maybe more?) before they consider you as an in-state transfer student. Don't know about USC, but it should not matter there because it is a private institution.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/Adm_tr/tftv.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/Adm_tr/tftv.htm</a> - UCLA requirements</p>
<p><a href="http://www-cntv.usc.edu/admissions/admissions-application.cfm%5B/url%5D">http://www-cntv.usc.edu/admissions/admissions-application.cfm</a> - USC</p>
<p>This thread makes me shiver for the OP. As an OOS student (originally from Seattle) who moved to California to attend CC, I agree 100% with ilovecalifornia and greennblue. CA is not an endless fountain of resources or opportunities and has a duty to protect its own tax payers (I've fully come to terms with that).</p>
<p>While it may be simple to establish residency for tuition purposes at CC (2 years of continuous residency with proof i.e rental contract, bank statements, tax returns, or 1 year if you live with parent or guardian), establishing residency for UC tuition purposes is almost impossible. I hope you're rich or know people out here. If not, and assuming you follow the requirements to sever all ties with your home state and file your own CA taxes, how will you financially support yourself in this state where the pace and cost of living is through the roof? And don't think your parents can surreptitiously deposit money into your bank account. Those UC residency deputies will check. Knowing one personally, I've heard countless stories of students who've lived here for 4 years+ and still not qualify for residency tuition.</p>
<p>But concerns over residency tuition pale in comparison to the cost of living i.e. rent, insurance, transportation, food, etc... While I'm an extreme case, I've lived through many bouts of homelessness--with and without a car because I didn't want to move back to my home state and negate everything I've done here. When I lost my car, I lived at LAX posing as a tourist while attending classes at Santa Monica College during the day lol. I also made $11,000 part time for 2005 which mostly went towards CC tuition or short stays at motels since my credit was no longer good enough to rent an apartment. With my meager skills and inability to speak Spanish, it was hard to find a job that could sustain me. But if you're hellbent on graduating from a UC as I am, the CCC's will get you there. </p>
<p>But since you plan on studying film, I recommend you stay in Virginia for the first 2 years of undergrad if you're rejected since, as another person noted, you'll be evaluated primarily on the strength of your portfolio for UCLA. In the case of USC, your residency status makes no difference.</p>
<p>Secondly, would you move here knowing that you won't qualify for resident tuition at UC? That would be the case should you move here immediately before fall semester and complete the first 60 units in 2 years or less. The reason is that UC requires you to file as an independent for the 2 years prior to enrollment in the junior year to qualify for in-state tuition unless you're atleast 24 years old (the age when your parents can no longer claim you for tax purposes). So suppose you move here in August of 2007--you might not be able to file CA taxes for 2007 since you'd have been residing in VA for more than half the year. Bottom line-- if finances must be considered, you have a difficult situation to ponder. Good luck!</p>
<p>^^ brilliant post nicopico! i totally agree with you, i think the OP should stay in virginia and get his degree in either USC (or any other college in virginia that has film). UCLA is nearly impossible for the OP as UCLA cares about in state students and only admits 3%. You would have a greater chance @ usc or any college in virginia and it'll be way more convinient! I also would like to recommend you trying out NYU! they have a great arts department there, i assume they have film studies...</p>
<p>Just move for one year and work. Use it for rent then apply to the school. You can say you moved there and decided all of a sudden school was for you.</p>
<p>THANK YOU NICOPICO and MOJOJOJO!</p>
<p>at least some people in here have common sense.</p>
<p>I'm sorry, this isn't an issue of opinion. This is about using your brain.</p>
<p>you'd have to be a complete idiot to say its fair for people outside of california to move here, crowd our community colleges, take our spots at public universities, and use up all the resources reserved for CALIFORNIANS...</p>
<p>I was born and raised in California. My family has been supporting California's Economy for the past 40 years...and YES I am more deserving of the resources the state of California has made available to its residents than some spoiled kids from out of state who want to go to the same schools as millions of Californian high school and community college students.</p>
<p>If its wrong for thousands of students from across the US moved to California and use our community colleges to reach their goals, then the same goes for one individual from Virginia. Less of an impact, but equally wrong.</p>
<p>How about we invite every outstanding student from the continent of Asia to the US and give them a fair shot at all of our universities?</p>
<p>ok then, exactly! </p>
<p>IF YOUR AGAINST ME its because youre either not from california, or you're an idiot who lives in california and has no understanding of how the California community college system works and how it should continue working...</p>
<p>The fact that I even have to explain myself is pathetic...</p>
<p>Thanks again, nicopico and mojojojo, glad people out there understand where I'm coming from.</p>
<p>Brdpun, I know youre jealous because you were born and raise in some state that doesn't have the resources California has, but that doesn't mean you should attack me because my opportunities are endless.</p>
<p>Unlike you, I WAS BORN, RAISED, and EDUCATED by the state of California. Does that answer your question?</p>
<p>Its called a BORDER. Ya, its this crazy idea that a line can seperate political divisions or geographic regions.</p>
<p>You know, its what seperates us from Mexico...If borders didn't exist, then a Chinese person could have easily taken your spot at whatever university you attend. If borders didn't exist, then a Mexican or Canadian could have easily taken your parent's job doing whatever they do and an Indian could have bought the house your parents are living in right now. If borders didn't exist, then ANYONE could do WHATEVER they pleased WHERE EVER they wanted, as long as they aren't breaking the law...</p>
<p>does that sound fair? sure, I'd love for everyone to have the same rights and chances. Dont get me wrong, BUT</p>
<p>is that fair to the citizens of the state, country, or city that is being exploited by outsiders? NO!</p>
<p>So until your state (or the topic starter's state) comes up with a better system, then its still not fair for you to use ours because our system is reserved for, well...US! = )</p>
<p>yes i totally agree with you
but its still mean to say that in the op's face =/</p>
<p>I speak the truth, I dont care if thats mean, its the truth lol</p>
<p>First off, tutition isn't that much of a problem. The federal government pays for half of the tutition at private/public colleges, and all of my tutition at community colleges. </p>
<p>And second-off, You can try to convince me not to go there, and it's not going to work. I'm still going to apply, just like I will to all my other choices (USC, UCLA, SCAD, NYU.) And so what if I don't get in? I tried, end of story. If I do, then But do you honestly think that it's that much of a big deal to post several messages saying the same thing, or even get worked up about it? It's not like my **ONLY **option is UCLA. It's just that UCLA is my preffered choice, because I have friends/distant family that attend, and say they love it. In the end, you can rant and rave about how I shouldn't go, but you're not deciding whether I go or not, that's up to the college and myself. I do appreciate all of you that are telling me facts.</p>