<p>Flaming the OP is not going to make them not come here. </p>
<p>Ilovecalifornia, even if they did come here it does not mean they would take your spot. They would only get in ahead of you if they had better stats. If someone wants to come here and work there ass off then fine. People disagreeing with you does not make them wrong. Why must you always go straight for personal insults every time someone disagrees with you? It sounds like the OP needs to move here (or possibly NY) for there career anyway so why not move now? I think you should follow Nicopico's lead. He/she was able to articulate his/her argument without insulting anyone. More people will listen to what you say if you are less explosive. </p>
<p>How would you feel if this was a career move? If you got offered a job in another state that was awesome would you turn it down because it really should go to someone who already lives there? Or would you think you would not have received the offer if you were not qualified in the first place so you have every right to accept it?</p>
<p>LOL true (10 chars) or we could talk about how no school compares to Harvard so if you don't go there then you should just get a job at McDonalds cause you are obviously useless. (joking of course)</p>
<p>sweetny you are not getting the obvious point I'm trying to make, so I give up on you. your comparing the california community colleges to the US job market....its hard to argue with you when you make stupid comparisons lol</p>
<p>and people who disagree with me on this topic are wrong. its common sense its not a matter of opinion. I'm not saying my opinion is right and your opinion is wrong, because its not a matter of opinion!</p>
<p>People from out of state coming here to use our CCC system, WILL have an impact on the CCC system set up for californians....thats all im saying, and that is WRONG in the sense that it will mess up the system whether you people are ready to admit it or not. </p>
<p>you can say you're against the way the CCC system is set up, but <em>starts singing</em> "thats just the way it is"</p>
<p>And you missed my very obvious point. My point was made even more obvious by your response. As far as the comparison, in your way of thinking you should not accept a job in another state because then there is one more resident of that state that will not get that job. It just sounds ridiculous.</p>
<p>"you're like, actually a complete idiot"</p>
<p><em>Sings</em> "like totally, for sure I even got a manicure..." I know that is going to go over your head but oh well. :)</p>
<p>um yeah you know me so well....i'm exactly the way you describe me sarcastically...</p>
<p>I meant to say "like" in a paused manner, to emphasize my amazement with your stupidity. If you gave me your phone number, i could call you and say that sentence the way i meant it, so you wouldn't make your little sarcastic comments. until that day you can just assume i'm a valley girl lol.</p>
<p>THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN YOUR COMPARISONS THAT MAKES IT RIDICULOUS IS THE FACT THAT JOBS AREN'T SET UP IN AN ORGANIZED SYSTEM THE WAY THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA IS SET UP</p>
<p>Why aren't you seeing the huge difference between a state's organized system of transferring and admitting first time students to public state universities.....and applying for job in another state...as far as I know, I dont think there are any states that give priority to their own residents when it comes to jobs.....there i proved your example wrong, are you still not getting my point?</p>
<p>"um yeah you know me so well....i'm exactly the way you describe me sarcastically..."</p>
<p>I am just posting in response to what you say in your posts. </p>
<p>"If you gave me your phone number, i could call you and say that sentence the way i meant it"</p>
<p>Right...</p>
<p>"THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN YOUR COMPARISONS THAT MAKES IT RIDICULOUS IS THE FACT THAT JOBS AREN'T SET UP IN AN ORGANIZED SYSTEM THE WAY THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA IS SET UP"</p>
<p>First there is no need to yell or throw a tantrum. Second yes the system is different but the idea is the same. I am not really worried about whether you agree with me or not. I am just sick of your childish posts.</p>
<p>to the OP, we arent trying to rant about how you shouldnt come here; its your choice and cali has a million tourists everyday. The issue we have is that 1) we are trying to be helpful and 2) your chances are very slim. Chances are, as the previous poster mentioned above my post, that residency is hard to gain. With that said, that decreases your chances from the 3% of the average in-stater. Also, financially, you will be in extreme debt, its about 30 thousand for out of state tuition. Those on the board that are trying to get you to stay in virginia are truly looking out for the best for you financially. Honestly, its your life, you do what you want, but dont expect people to see the other option; theres a lot of ways to look @ it. Basically, the UCs, unlike other state colleges, do not like out of staters. If you want to try UCLA, go ahead, no one is certainly stopping you, but just know that its increasingly difficult even if you move here (for residency purposes and other things) I personally would recommend that you apply to private schools as residency does not matter. You could try lmu, usc, nyu, and other schools that offer film. Good luck!</p>
<p>Although MerlinJones is not going to "set foot" in this thread again, I will reply to his/her question
nicopico (post #32) and others in the immediately following posts have addressed the issues quite well. When I say it is a "no no," Merlin, I mean that the UCs will not consider you a California resident if you come here solely to do your schooling for the last year of high school. If your family has an employment-related transfer and you have only been in the State for one year, your family will have to document carefully the situation and meet several criteria. </p>
<p>As a New England resident (albeit a former Californian), I can still have a sense of fairness from afar. California is well-known for having one of the most, if not the most, amazing educational values in this country for its state residents. Following your logic, I could have just moved my family back there a few months (or a year) prior to my son's entrance into college, watched him get into one of the top universities in the country in his chosen field and saved our family a boatload of money. </p>
<p>It isn't right. So I don't do it. Neither should anyone else.</p>
<p>I don't see why you should take offense, Ilovecalifornia. I highly doubt you've ever paid taxes in California (and if you have, I'm sure it wasnt much). The same way a whole lot of kids at the UCs probably haven't worked much or directly contributed to the "school system set up for Californians." Just because you happened to born into a family that lives in California, you're entitled to go to the best school system in the country? How would you like it if only the richest 2% of kids were allowed to go to Harvard? Through nothing the actual kid has done, he's entitled to the best education? Oh, and Ilovecalifornia, I'm sure this wasn't an issue when you were in high school. Back when you didn't have the grades or test scores to get into a UC. If someone from out of state managed to gain residency, to leave their family, to work in the tough CA market, to have to pay outrageous CA prices (and they still have the grades), against all odds, I think that makes them more entitled to the school system than some spoiled rich kid.</p>
<p>mojojojo69: Thank you. Honestly. You're one of the few people here who's opinions I value. I do understand my chanes are slim, and it I do get it, it'd probably be a miracle. I posted ealier about how financially, I'm good to go. Half of my college is already paid by the gov't if I go to a Public/Private college, while all tutition is taken care of if I go to a community college. Thanks so much for the intelligent post.</p>
<p>ilovecalifornia: Thanks for your opinion. I appreciate it, but that's all it is, an opinion. Everyone knows it already, so you can stop reiterating it over and over again. You're taking away from the quality of the boards, and you honestly need to talk to someone about your issues. Is it that important that you get worked up about it? Honestly, it's the internet, where everyone who thinks they have an opinion that's better than everyone elses. You can stop yelling and leave this thread. We know what you think, and you're done.</p>
<p>signitblank...i dont care what you do...you could go to the school of your dreams for all i care. i couldn't care less. most of my posts aren't even directed towards you.</p>
<p>I dont care if i've hijacked your thread to make a point. my point is simple: if more people did what you want to do, california's cc system would get MESSED UP. thats it. i only defend what i say when people make stupid comments about what i typed.</p>
<p>....and uh...i'll decide when i'm done....lol look at this guy 'you're done' haha prick...</p>
<p>I agree with your point. I really do. But I think you've articulated it here very poorly. Instead of coming off as credible and level headed, you went all vigilante and started calling people names, repeating yourself tons of times for no reason, and generally being really defensive. There's really no point in repeating it over and over when the person clearly doesn't care. You've informed people and that's as much as you can do. Why persist and annoy everyone on the board? Only makes you look bad.</p>
<p>Nicopico and Mojojo69, you guys have been giving some very helpful info so I'll give you my situation and see if you can assess it for me:</p>
<p>I'm moving to LA, but initially it had little to do with school. My aunt has lived in LA for about 15 years now and is a somewhat prominent performer on the LA scene. She offered me a part as drummer in her band so I figured why not, you dont get these kinda opportunities veyr often. Also, her fiance is a senior partner at an LA law firm, and told me I could intern at his firm, which would help a lot b/c I ultimately want to be a corporate lawyer when I graduate. So I figured since I'll be living down there, why not take advantage of the may opportunities of the UC/CCC system (much to the dismay of ilovecalifornia, i bet lol I totally see your point though man) I've looked into the whole residency thing, and you guys are right, it's a lot harder than it looks. It's also a little confusing lol Since I'll be living with my aunt, and am under the age of 21, would her being my guardian make the process a little easier? What would it entail? I'm tired of typing now lol Thanks info you guys can give me</p>
<p>I totally agree with you. This is an example of why I don't agree with the legacy points awarded to kids whose parents attended a certain private university (this goes for schools such as USC, or other prestigious private universities). I don't understand why a kid should have a better chance of getting into a certain school just because their parents attended it. They themselves did absolutly nothing... they just happened to be born into a family where their dad or mom went to the school. This is my point I was tryin to make about USC in the other thread. Although USC has improved throughout the years.. the fact is the last generation of students (ie current student's parents) basically went to a school where if you had the money or connections, you got in. So my point is why should a prospective student whose parents attended USC 30-40 years ago be entitled to a "privaleged" admission process, when the majority of the students at the university at the time (60's and 70's) consisted of rich kids with poor to average grades.</p>
<p>i can see how i've come off as mean and difficult, but why would i care about looking bad to you folks? seriously, i dont need respect from any of you...</p>
<p>so yea i did defend what i say by repeating some stuff but do i care? no do i need to make a good impression here? no....</p>
<p>all i'm pointing out, is that its wrong for people from other states to move to cali just to use the community colleges. i guess you could say i'm passionate about it, because i know that CCCs have worked and continue to work miracles for hopeless students, low income students, 'bad' students, etc etc...</p>
<p>and for some guy to come in here and talk about comfortably moving here just so he can get a better shot at his dream school...which is a dream school shared by thousands of CCC students from across california, then yeah, i dont think its fair and thats my point. its all good for one person to do this, but if thousands did it, you'd all see what i'm talking about.....</p>
<p>and yes i repeated myself, for the sake of annoying you.</p>