<p>As you can see I have somewhat of a dilemma.</p>
<p>I know that this all depends on what I want to do, but other than thinking of a philosphy, psychology or sociology major, I don't really know. </p>
<p>I am interested in law and considering going to law school for grad school.</p>
<p>I'm taking a paralegals course at Mt. Sac for the summer and it's been going okay. At Mt. Sac, I will most probably be using their TAP and Honors Program to transfer to UCLA.</p>
<p>Mt. Sac:
Pros:
-transfer out to a UC in two years and leaving my options open
-cheaper
Cons:
-miss out building rapport with professors and networking
-going to a UC will put me amongst a lot of competition and I might just be an average Joe
-UCs are more focused on reserach</p>
<p>Cal Poly:
Pros:
-great campus, nice environment
-I have already spoken with a pre-law professor there, who teaches mock trials and it might be something I'm interested in or pursue
-I can stand out amongst a lot of people
-the teachers are more focused on teaching
Cons:
-I will probably be stuck there for 4 years</p>
<p>If I register for classes for the Fall Quarter at Cal Poly, if I drop them before the quarter ends will my name already be in the system (therefore preventing me from going back to Mt. Sac and being considered a community college studnt transfer)?</p>
<p>From what I remember, if you go to another non-cc school and then go to CC to transfer you need at least 30 units at a CC or something liked that to be considered a CC transfer</p>
<p>I think that if you plan on dropping the courses half way, why even enroll in the classes in the first place?</p>
<p>You should make a decision and stick with it. The whole Cal Poly thing + community college wont hurt your chances at future transfer admissions later on, and it won't matter where you transfer from as long as you take the courses that do transfer, and you get a high enough gpa. </p>
<p>Look at the IGETC courses to see what classes would be equivalent at whatever school you attend, it doesn't help you to take major specific courses at Cal Poly when they wont transfer to a future school(if that's giong to be your plan. You should be taking the basic IGETC requirements such as Sociology, English, Philosophy, Psychology Chemistry Math etc. </p>
<p>People who usually don't get into the UC's as a transfer, are usually because they fail to meet the specific lower division requirements. You could have 60 units at Harvard or even Oxford, but when you don't have the 60 TRANSFERABLE REQUIRED units(as dictated by the IGETC requirement) they will not be accepting you.</p>
<p>You should give Mt. Sac a visit and try to get an appointment with a counselor. I recommend getting one with Linda Diaz as she will give you really good info on your situation</p>
<p>Do any of you think going to Cal Poly for four years will inhibit me from getting into a good grad school as opposed to transferring to a UC from Mt. Sac?</p>
<p>Why not try going to Cal Poly for 2 years and then try to transfer out? I went to CSUF for two years, and I'm transferring out to UCLA this fall. I'm also taking Mt. Sac classes (two) this summer. And these classes are just like my Fullerton classes. Small and professors are willing to help. I'm sure its going to be the same for Cal Poly.</p>
<p>Within the two years at Fullerton, I did everything you wanted, networking, having my options still open and I wasn't stuck for 4 years. </p>
<p>My first 1 year was mostly GE courses, and the beginning of my second year was when I decided I wanted to transfer out. Although I was missing a few pre-reqs that should have jeopardized my addmissions, but I think that my essay was what helped me out a lot. </p>
<p>Its good that you found this site that can help you out cause I didn't find this until my second year.</p>
<p>Nothing guarantees you'll get into a good grad school just because you go to a UC, especially even at UCLA, when it's a sink or swim situation. Grad school looks at GPA and Scores, before they factor in where you came from.</p>
<p>A 3.0 from harvard wont get you in over a 3.9 at your flagship state uni.</p>
<p>Linda Diaz is a good counselor, however she is extremely popular among the kids. In case she is filled up, Eddie Lee is another good advisor. Otherwise, imo, i would probably go to Mt. Sac for 2 years. Many of their credits are transferrable to a UC. But then, i don't know much about Cal Poly. I would say check which college has more transferrable courses as that will allot you more choices of classes that you would like.</p>
<p>Thanks for everyone's input. It was nice to hear of your experience, dbguy
What made you decide to transfer out? Did CSUF have a transfer program like Mt. Sac's TAP?</p>
<p>I've tried to schedule an appointment with Linda Diaz but the honors program secretaries have told me several times that I cannot talk to her until I am admitted into the honors program. </p>
<p>I;ll try explaining my situation to them on Monday, or talk to Eddie Lee.</p>
<p>Fullerton didn't have a program, what I had to do was basically just go on the UCLA website and see their transfer requirements, and just try to take the classes that Fullerton had. I also used assist.org to help me out. They don't have Fullerton, but I used Fullerton College to match up with CSUF to see what it would be transferable, then I used Fullerton College to match UCLA, and I also did that with Mt. Sac, vice versa...</p>
<p>It fall, the winds were blowing, the leaves were falling, the sun was shining.. and I was sitting on a bench where I usually sit, and I looked around the area and I thought that this place was so empty... I did however have a break while class was in session. But I just thought that I needed to get out of this area and go to a school with more school pride. Don't get me wrong, Fullerton has some pride, they're known for baseball, but it just wasn't fitting for me. And the best place that I wanted to live was the city, and what better match up could I possible receive right? A great school, and living in the city... So I just took my chances to apply to Berkeley, San Diego, Irvine, and LA. </p>
<p>I think I would've got into Berkeley if I had complete two or three prereqs that I was supposed to. I only got into Irvine and LA, got rejected by SD too.</p>
<p>kissingurami, no 4 year schools have tap agreements with the uc's or any other schools for that matter. only community colleges have this. the point of community college is to get an AA/Certificat/Transfer. The point of a 4 year school is to get a bachelor's degree. why would a 4 year school try to have a transfer agreement with another 4 year school, when the purpose is for you to attend a 4 year school in the first place is to get your degree from them, not to use them as a form of transferring.</p>
<p>Yeah if the honors secretary is Leanne tell her your situation. Say you are deciding between the two schools and if you did end up going to Mt. Sac you would definitely be joining the honors program. If all else fails tell her Warren sent you haha</p>
<p>I informed Leanne about my situation and she had to tell me that an appointment doesn't work that way - you can't just walk in and talk to Linda. lol. I scheduled an appointment with her for next week</p>
<p>So then I tried to schedule an appointment with another advisor like Eddie Lee but I needed to set up an orientation appointment first, which I just did. </p>
<p>Anyway so I guess I'll just be waiting to talk to Linda. Until then, I'll be browsing this forum. </p>
<p>I am leaning a bit towards Mt. Sac, though. I talked to Leanne for a bit and she advised me to stay at a cc since I wasn't so sure as to what I wanted to do yet. </p>
<p>Btw, both the regular orientation and honors orientation are mandatory for Mt. Sac, correct?</p>
<p>I have decided to try out Cal Poly for a quarter - if I don't, I can still go back to Mt. Sac well under 60 units to transfer to a UC. This will help me to make my final decision, who knows, maybe I will be happy at Poly.</p>
<p>I continuously hear from people I seek advice from that the education quality from a UC is far much better than the one I would receive at Cal Poly. Plus, everyone says graduating from a top UC would put a shine or an extra polish onto my resume.</p>
<p>Is this true, and how would going to a UC vs. Cal Poly affect my chances at getting into a good grad school ?</p>
<p>you might want to check out what other students say about cal poly pomona before you jump in there. the students review dot com web site rates that school the worst in the entire 23 campus cal state system. standing out in a pig sty only means you smell just a tad better than the rest.</p>
<p>from all observations and reports it still might be a good deal if you study engineering or architecture, but other than that it looks like a pretty lame choice.</p>
<p>i have noticed that a very high number of mt. sac transfers go on to one of the UC campuses. apparently there is a strong working relationship present to facilitate this.</p>
<p>I am also a prospective law student. I'm going to be applying to several Philosophy programs this Fall as a pre-law student, and I go to PCC.</p>
<p>From my experience, one of the striking distinctions between the CS and UC systems is that the CS system is more about teaching (as you said) and putting that to work with a BA/BS degree; and the UC system is more about theory and shifted towards gearing students up for grad school.</p>
<p>If I were you, I would go to Mt. Sac for two years, and if in two years you still feel that you want to go to Cal Poly (and haven't gotten tired of the Walnut/Pomona area) then you can transfer there. Most of your networking with professors will happen when you do your upper-division work anyway, right?</p>
<p>It seems that you are fairly uncertain about jumping into Cal Poly, so give yourself time to think about (and save yourself some money) by going to a CC. My two cents.</p>
<p>was just told that mt sac is the largest community college campus in the state and that its facilities and programs rival or even surpass many universities. one might only wonder what the parking situation is there, but that may help to explain why so many sac transfers are at berkeley and UCLA.</p>