<p>If you are in need of a waiver, you are placed into a pool of candidates that also need waivers. From those, a set number will be offered admission; the ceiling on those admitted with waivers is set at 30%.</p>
<p>It is reasonable to surmise that waivers will go to those in the pool that have been selected from that group for admission, and not used for those that do not make the cut.</p>
<p>best of luck!</p>
<p>I'm going to jump in here, even though I don't have all the answers. I think there is a little confusion. Isn't every applicant who gets an Appointment tripple Qed? You might not get a letter, but by the time they make an offer you're qualified, even if it takes a waiver to make you qualified.</p>
<p>I think that 1888 number includes those who have to be waivered, but I don't have info to back it up.</p>
<p>That may be correct Couger, however I am assuming that because of the 33% limit and the fact that waivers are only given to those who are admitted (the top 33% of those with bad eyesight), makes me believe that I will not ever be "Triple Q'd" in name, just admitted or rejected. </p>
<p>I'e combed over just about ever post in this forum and all those availibile elsewhere, yet have never seen any info on how many are scholastically qualified (and theoretically should be tripled Q'd), just they have bad eyesight.</p>
<p>Guess what I'm saying is that my next letter from USNA will either be an all or nothing situation.</p>
<p>regardine eyesight waivers, and being in a separate pool...my theory is that they academy places everyone they want to accept into a file. usually the number of people in that file that need a vision waiver is close to the number of vision vaivers allotted by the CNO anyway. if there are too many people with bad vision, the bottom-most people with vision are not appointed, and the top of those with good vision(yet not in the origional file) are offered appointment. Thats my story and I'm stickin to it. (Although it might be wishfull thinking by a guy with glasses)</p>
<p>qocougar,</p>
<p>Don't take this the wrong way, but unless you can improve your spelling and writing ability, obtaing an eye waiver is the least of your concerns. I think that WP posted something along this line in a previous post.</p>
<p>Ya know what, RKavanaugh? I'd like to know if the 30-33% medical waivers admitted includes all waivers i.e flat feet, past surgeries, etc. plus vision waivers - or if vision waivers get their own % category. Maybe RetNavyHM knows.</p>
<p>I was amazed at how many mids were wearing glasses when we last visited the campus. </p>
<p>I also wonder if the vision waiver obstacle will be moot someday soon as USNA has been scheduling corrective surgery for mids.</p>
<p>FWIW, both my brothers has to wear glasses during adolescence and when their growth finished their vision had corrected, as well.</p>
<p>Hey GA, I'm tellin' ya sometimes I question my own spelling after I get off this forum. I go and hang out with the Ivies in hopes that their erudition rubs off. I don't know if I'll ever be able to spell obstacle again w/out doubting myself.</p>
<p>I am 99% sure that the 1/3 rule is just for vision waivers, I dont think any of the other waivers have any percent cap, but are not nearly as prevalent so not as noteworthy because of their case by case basis.</p>
<p>I guess I can only hope that I am in the lower part of the 1800-2800 range of those who get scholastically qualified with vision and those who get triple Q'd. However with a little fiddling, he goes my shot at crunching the numbers. </p>
<p>400 recieve vision waivers each year (1/3 of 1200), which means that those 400 dont recieve triple Q'd (as once they recieve an appt., it means they have a waiver, thus skipping the triple Q'd step). </p>
<p>So adding those 400 to the 1800 who are Triple Q'd gives me 2200 is the minimum (however lower if USNA doesn't fill a 1/3 quota). However 2200 is a low number because it only includes the 400 who recieve vision waivers in the end, and we must assume that far more apply under the vision category, which brings the number higher. </p>
<p>I do hope that the ratio of applicants who need vision waivers is fairly consistent with those addmitted with a vision waiver, however I have my doubts, putting myself in an even more competitive category along with all my peers who are in the same situation.</p>
<p>RCavanaugh, </p>
<p>I have to think that your math exercise might be incorrect. I think that once you've got your waiver (for whatever), you have been Triple Q'd. I don't think that they differentiate Triple Q's appointments from those that got waivers. That is, the waiver provides your medical Q. </p>
<p>I could be mistaken...</p>
<p>I believe you are correct in every other medical situation, however a vision waiver is different because the academy only gives the waiver at the same time of admission, in order to make the 33% cut. </p>
<p>This in a way makes sense, as they basically take the highest (up to) 1/3 of those applicants with bad vision before not giving out any vision waivers. DODMERB is also fairly clear on that it is up to the Naval Academy to decide for me now. </p>
<p>If any of this is wrong (and for the most part I hope it is, as my situation would look slightly better), I will most willingly concede my posistion.</p>
<p>I believe the 30% includes all conditions that are "waiverable," not just vision, abet vision is the largest group.</p>
<p>The good news is that prior to the class of 2010, vision waivers were needed for anything beyond 20/20 in both eyes....now it has been relaxed a bit and the numbers are now 20/40.</p>
<p>If you need a waiver, you will be competeting in the pool of applicants that require waivers, and once again the cream of that group will rise to the top-</p>
<p>best of luck to all of you waiting out there-</p>
<p>So is it fair to say that the guys in glasses are really smart? Generally speaking, since that pool of candidates appears to be even more highly competitive.</p>
<p>If so, I'm getting 2 pair!:cool::cool:</p>
<p>Wait till the missus finds out. NOW she'll KNOW I know!:) No? :( </p>
<p>Move over, Einstein. You too, Z man:confused:</p>
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<p>not sure of your logic....
lets just say that it puts you in a pool competeting for fewer spots..... so more competetive, but the range of "smartness" I would venture is the same...</p>
<p>He may be right that the plebes in specs :cool: are above USNA average. But then so are all the children from Lake Wobegone. Both are skewed populations, not representative of the larger universe.</p>
<p>Is the bespeckled mensch at Stone Creek Ridge on the average smarter or smart*** then the Indigenous population.</p>
<p>How would I find out if my congressman ranks? I did recieve a letter saying that I did recieve a nom. The letter said nothing about being an alternate or a primary, how can I find this out and/or if my congressman ranks his noms?</p>
<p>are the numbers that are listed as tiple Q'ed, does this include people that get noms? If the number doesn't hypothetically people that are triple qualified some do not get noms, making those numbers hard to go by....</p>
<p>Quick Question
The class profile doesnt not specify if the candidates that were triple Q'ed had recieve nominations, does it in fact include nominations. If this number does not then the chances for admissions is greater.</p>
<p>If you received a letter stating you receive a nomination, I would think you would be the primary.</p>
<p>I would not conclude that is the case. It would seem to simply indicate what it does. One is nominated.</p>