<p>Couple of questions...does anyone know if Music Ed students live in the Eastman housing or the U of R housing and commute?</p>
<p>Also, are there separate ensembles at Eastman for Music Ed students? I know that when we went to visit Ithaca they were very sure to tell us that at most schools Music Ed majors and music minors have their own separate ensembles.</p>
<p>I believe music education students study at the river campus, and play in ensembles exclusively at the river campus.</p>
<p>Competition for admission to the Eastman school is very fierce, and I do not think there is much intermingling between the two student bodies. </p>
<p>River campus students may have to travel to the Eastman school for their private instrument lessons, but since the Eastman school is after the 'creme de la creme', music majors take their courses at the river campus.</p>
<p>Eastman students do live at Eastman, but there is a lot of mingling as they take classes together or join groups. My S was a student at Rochester (2006) and yesterday a friend from Eastman came to stay with us in Florida as she auditions for the orchestra here in Tampa. She is a grad student now at Rice. He also had other friends at Eastman. They happened to meet thorugh a religious group they had joined.</p>
<p>Thanks, it would be great if D were a music ed major living at the River campus. On a quick visit to Eastman last Nov (no tour or info, we were there for NYSSMA Conference All State) we found the area it is in to be very bleak and bare for being in the city and were not impressed.<br>
Frankly, we have been warned against going through Eastman for music ed as "music ed majors are looked down upon there and do not get the full Eastman experience". I was worried about this statement should D be living at Eastman but if she were staying on the River campus and playing in River campus ensembles I think it would be better. I am sure that off campus performance opportunities are seriously limited though for music ed majors.</p>
<p>My son was a performance major at Eastman. According to him the Music Ed majors live and go to school at Eastman. They play in the Eastman ensembles. You have to apply to and audition at Eastman to get in the music ed program. Son states that they claim a 100% placement rate for their music ed majors.</p>
<p>Most of the above information is not very accurate. (Except Shennie's!)</p>
<p>You have to think of University of Rochester completely separately from Eastman. </p>
<p>U of R (the River Campus) does have a music department - they offer a BA with a concentration in music. There is no music education major there. Clearly, the U of R music department is sort of supplementing the offerings within the larger university, and is not a leading music department by any stretch of the imagination. All U of R students live on the river campus. Here is the link to that department:
<a href="http://www.rochester.edu/College/MUR/academics/degree.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.rochester.edu/College/MUR/academics/degree.html</a></p>
<p>Eastman is a world class music conservatory, that just so happens to be a college within U of R. They offer many music majors, including Music Education. Students live at the downtown campus. They have ensembles that regular U of R students can not participate in. (You would be hard pressed to find a student at U of R qualified to participate.) The Eastman collegiate faculty does not teach students from U of R. (Although some of the grad students and adjuncts do.) The Eastman music education students audition for the same Eastman ensembles as the performance majors. It is a small school (900 students) and so they have a very small campus.</p>
<p>Ithaca's comments about the separate ensembles may apply to regular colleges, but I'd be very surprised if they applied in general at the conservatory level.</p>
<p>Momof3stars: I questioned my recent Eastman grad last night about music ed. He says that they are not looked down on at all by the other students. The usually are not as strong players as the performance majors but they just kind of accept that as the way it is. They are very busy folks because they take most of the same classes and ensembles the performance majors do plus all of their education requirements as well. He said he was pretty impressed with most of the music ed majors he knew. He thinks it is a great place to get a music ed degree.</p>
<p>HI. I have what is probably a very dumb question, but hope someone can answer it nonetheless. 2nd son is a current junior and will most likely major in computer science, but he would like to minor in music. Is there such a thing as a music minor? He has played piano since kindergarten, trombone in band and took the AP music theory exam without the AP class. So he would like to continue his musical studies and composing, but probably won't make it his profession. If there is music as a minor, is this possible only in schools that don't have conservatories? Or does one double major? He is top notch academically, so he would like a strong curriculum as well. Thanks for any info.</p>
<p>You might want to post this in the Music Forum:</p>
<p>In general, I don't think you can minor in music at a conservatory. Some conservatory students try to minor in other subjects, or double major, but it's really tough.</p>
<p>I think your best bet is to focus first of choosing some colleges that he will like and that you can afford for computer science and then try to determine which of those offer a decent music minor.</p>
<p>thanks! He's actually quite interested in CMU (visiting this summer), some ivies, and now maybe U of R as he's getting one of their book awards and prior to that we had never even looked at it. So when we saw that they also had a great music program, it peaked our interest. It sounds like it might almost be better to go to a school without a conservatory for a music minor. The money is something we're just swallowing since his older brother is at an ivy with little financial aid and we have to be fair. But with four kids in five years, our aid should increase. I'll look at some of the posts in the music forum (didn't realize there was one) and see what I can glean from there.</p>
<p>Can't you minor in music through the music dept. on the river campus? This department is separate from the Eastman School, including its own separate ensembles.</p>
<p>^ Yes he can. See link in post #6.</p>
<p>I understand that access to performance classes is more limited, but to what extent can River campus students take some of the intro Music Ed classes on pedagogy etc.?</p>
<p>I have a kid who will probably do Music Ed at the graduate level, but wants a more general and varied undergrad experience first. The opportunity to explore some Music Ed would be very appealing.</p>