<p>And we all know that trombones are highly incorrigible.</p>
<p>Hartt - $7,500 instrumental talent award (no academic awards as per school policy)</p>
<p>Shenandoah - $8,000 instrumental talent award + $4,000 academic award + $2,600 grant</p>
<p>Drake - $12,500 instrumental talent award + $7,500 Presidential Scholar award + $5,500 grant</p>
<p>Congratulations Mezzo’sMama on the huge offer from CIM – the largest that I’ve seen on this thread. I hope your appeal works. Good luck to you and your daughter. </p>
<p>Sometimes the Mezzo’s can be heard over the trombones!! Keep up the good work!!</p>
<p>I always thought it was ferklempt!! lol, I say that all the time…ala “SNL” skit where, Mike Myers was dressed as a woman, who was all “ferklempt” and told the people she was with, to talk amongst themselves…she’s awwl ferklempt! Ok, enough of that…</p>
<p>My son got a nice Deans Scholarship from IU, Jacobs, with more information to come.
He was also informed that he’s getting a Scholarship from MSM, but he needs to send in more paperwork before they’ll tell him what it is…see? This is why they still need mom’s, even applying to Grad School!!</p>
<p>My son recieved $20,000 from NEC, and was told to read his financial package carefully, for additional $. He was also told that NEC has frozen tuition. I’m not sure if he said, frozen at last years tuition costs, or is it for what was expected this year.</p>
<p>A little correction…the NEC merit scholarship is $23,000. every bit helps!</p>
<p>My D received a new offer from CIM late last night and the total is now just over 33K. I’m so glad that CIM was her first choice anyway so we don’t have to sacrifice her happiness for money…
It’s astounding to know that the tuition there was $4500 in the mid 80’s and now that’s the amount the figure in for “misc.expenses”!</p>
<p>congratulations, MezzoMamma! to you and your daughter!</p>
<p>Thanks! She is thrilled and I am so glad that it’s all over… But I will really MISS her. Can we have a “crying” Forum in August?</p>
<p>22k from CIM
15k from Indiana…</p>
<p>But tuition and residency are way cheaper in Indiana!
15k only from Music Merit,…I suck at Academics…</p>
<p>My award from Indiana is called “Premier young artist award”
and really happy of it!</p>
<p>What is your instrument haru1ove? Congratulations on your success at Indiana!</p>
<p>I can’t quite remember if this issue was discussed, but do you think it is more appropriate for the parents to contact the schools regarding financial aid issues or should the students do this themselves? My S definitely feels uncomfortable asking for more money and is unsure of how to go about this. He wouldn’t really know what to say. </p>
<p>What are your experiences with this? Since it is the parents paying, I think it would be fine for me to call. We are not eligible for need based aid so are looking for an increase in the amount that was already offered.</p>
<p>S got an excellent financial package from one school, about 75%, but only 50% from his preferred school. </p>
<p>Did you contact the Schools of Music or the general University Financial Aid offices? How involved did the private teacher get in these discussions? These are private Universities with separate Schools of Music within the U. </p>
<p>Thanks in advance.</p>
<p>Some past thoughts from this year and last:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/679976-should-i-ask-more-aid.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/679976-should-i-ask-more-aid.html</a>
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/448632-negotiate-better-scholarships.html?highlight=scholarships[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/448632-negotiate-better-scholarships.html?highlight=scholarships</a></p>
<p>I’m of the mind that if is need based aid, or dealing directly with the financial aid folks, I see no harm in the parent negotiating, as in most cases, they’re covering the bulk, and may well control the purse strings.</p>
<p>For talent awards, and merit money, I would consider letting the student initiate the discussion, particularly if the instructor or department has some sway n the allocation of talent based funds. Be realistic: “I’d like to be there, but it’s not financially viable unless you could come up with “x”.”</p>
<p>Some schools will negotiate, some won’t. Talent money is usually allocated by audition standing, with the bestest getting the mostest. It helps to know what the mostest is, and how many of those are awarded. Knowing a relative pecking order helps you assume a realistic position. </p>
<p>In the current economic clime, some of the old adages also may not be true. Some programs are tightening purse strings, where others seem to be more flexible for the students they want.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Also, some of those getting the 'mostest" go somewhere else and that loosens up the purse for others. It’s certainly worth a try.</p>
<p>haru1ove- are you definitely going to IU? My D will be at CIM as a VP major? What is your instrument/voice type?</p>
<p>My daughter has also received a “Premier Young Artist Award” from IU for violin. It’s the biggest offer she has gotten, and the school’s expenses are among the lowest. She really likes the teacher that she had a lesson with, so that is probably where she will go. She tried to negotiate with MSM, but was told no (we weren’t surprised). She is waiting to hear from another school where she has requested more money, but I’m not holding my breath for that one either. She wants a big city, but I think she’ll be fine in Bloomington!</p>
<p>In our case, DS negotiated the merit award. He blamed us for needing to pursue the issue!
The good news is that it worked!</p>
<p>In our case I did the negotiations with the music school since it was all merit based. DD was not comfortable doing it and I had a very vested interest in getting the expenses down if I could. If you don’t ask it won’t happen, if you do ask and get a no you have lost nothing. But if you can show them offers from comparable schools that are better they may meet you part way at least. That is what happened for us. It was her #1 choice and they improved the offer enough to make it feasible. </p>
<p>One thing we did not take into account though is that the merit award does not increase even though tuition does. Be sure to calculate that when you are figuring out if you can afford to attend.</p>
<p>28,000 oberlin, 29,500 northwestern…hmmm…</p>
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<p>Singersmom07 brings up a very good point.</p>
<p>It is possible to negotiate a cost factor adjustment in a merit award depending on the institution. If the award is for full (or half or a third) tuition, get that fact in writing so it can cover the typical annual tuition bump.</p>