MUSIC TEACHER EDUCATION Major Looking for a school

<p>I am a junior in HS, want to major in Music Teacher Education; I am a violist; A grades; taking SAT for the first time so no grades yet. taking 2 AP's now and 4 next year as a senior. </p>

<p>Looking at University of Delaware, Northeastern, Gettysburg, York College, PA., SUNY Potsdam, SUNY Fredonia, Susquehanna, Ithaca, Hartwick.</p>

<p>Looking for colleges that would give partial merit scholarships and/or music.</p>

<p>Comments/info about these schools???</p>

<p>I can’t comment on your list, but Vanderbilt University has both the Blair Music School and the Peabody School, which includes the various education programs. VU offers a range of merit scholarships, up to full tuition. (Vanderbilt is more difficult to get into than the schools you listed, and the sholarships aren’t easy to get, but they do offer very generous need-based financial aid as well as partial merit scholarships.)</p>

<p>A bright boy I know was looking at top LAC’s like Middlebury and Wesleyan. Then, when he expressed a strong interest in Music Education, his music teacher urged him to apply to Ithaca, touting it as one of the best programs in the Northeast.</p>

<p>car, please spend some time in the music major forum <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Most if not all the schools have been addressed there, including current applicants in both performance and music ed disciplines.</p>

<p>In general, straight music ed is most cost effective at your own state’s flagship, or a dedicated public college. The programs are geared to address state specific license/certifications. </p>

<p>There are a multitude of reasons to consider privates, including potential academic/merit/talent awards, as well as overall music program quality, or desire for a specific applied instructor, or a performance/ed combp pursuit.</p>

<p>In general, music scholarships are audition based, and may or may not include separate awards for academic or stats based factors. The criteria are institution specific.</p>

<p>Additionally, you will find a range of criteria for weight of music “talent” versus academic credentials. For music ed, the factors are academic, talent, and in most cases interview based admits.</p>

<p>I’d be more than happy to direct you to specific threads and/or answer questions in the Music Major forum.</p>

<p>We live in Northern Va. The VA school most often discussed is James Madison Univ. Her brother goes there but not sure if her GPA would be high enough. It is a very popular school and students seem extremely happy there. We are looking at Indaina Univ. , also very popular and excellent muic dept. reputation. We were told about Duquesne Univ.-near Pittsburg. Small Catholic school, great dept. Another is Univ. of Delaware- Music Ed. dept also has a great reputation. Look into the music school at Rutgers in NJ.</p>

<p>We would like some other names as well. GPA is factor for us and we shall see about SAT’s. In fact she is taking them for the first time as we speak. So gpa and oos tuition are obviously big factors not to mention the audition process. </p>

<p>If she could get into JMU that would be the place. Many of the choral and orchestra directors in our school are alumni and highly recommend it.</p>

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<p>To avoid confusion about midmo’s reference: [Vanderbilt</a> University’s Peabody College of education, psychology, policy – Graduate school Nashville, TN](<a href=“http://peabody.vanderbilt.edu/]Vanderbilt”>http://peabody.vanderbilt.edu/)</p>

<p>The Peabody Institute is part of Johns Hopkins, not Vanderbilt.
[Peabody</a> Institute - Music Education: Undergraduate Music Education](<a href=“http://www.peabody.jhu.edu/107]Peabody”>http://www.peabody.jhu.edu/107)</p>

<p>schoolshopper, again CC’s music major forum will be your best reference for specific answers to many music undergrad programs, admissions, and scholarship aspects.</p>

<p>I readily concede violadad’s superior knowledge about the study of music, but my reference to Vanderbilt’s Peabody School was about its undergraduate education program. The majority of education undergrad. majors at Vanderbilt’s Peabody school (it is not just a graduate school) are required to pursue a double major. Those students who wish to have a double major in music enroll in one of the Blair music school’s programs.</p>

<p>The point made above about state-specific credentials for teachers is valid, but that situation is changing, as many states institute alternative certification programs and liberalize their credentialing procedures.</p>

<p>midmo, I should have added the clarification of Vandy’s music ed program being administered jointly through Blair School of Music and Peabody College of Education Human Development.</p>

<p>My purpose was to avoid confusion for the casual reader, for if one hears music and Peabody, they tend associate it with Peabody Institue @ Johns Hopkins.</p>

<p>i know NYU has good education programs, and are pretty good with music.</p>

<p>NYU’s Steinhardt School is a fine institution and has a very solid, respected program. NYU historically has not been generous with either talent or merit based aid. It may be a non-issue for many, but for some the financial package is a critical factor in narrowing final choices.</p>

<p>Particularly true in an arts discipline, where the consensus is to accumulate as little undergrad debt as possible, especially if one is looking to furthering an education in grad school. A Masters is pretty much mandated down the road for ed majors as a means of continuing employment and/or furthering advancement.</p>

<p>I didn’t think JMU had Music Teacher Education? Do you know this as a fact??</p>

<p>Thank you - i will check out the mus educ forum! didn’t know it was there…one other question…since you are a viola dad…and i play viola. Have you gone through audition process? we are confused about the timing in applying for schools, being accepted into a school and getting your audition in by February. It seems that you must be accepted into the school before auditioning, and if you wish to be considered for a music scholarship, you must audition before February in most cases, but people are just now getting acceptance letters!</p>

<p>From JMU’s webpages</p>

<p>[JMU</a> School of Music :: Undergraduate Degree Programs](<a href=“http://www.jmu.edu/music/degree_programs/undergraduate.html#music_ed]JMU”>http://www.jmu.edu/music/degree_programs/undergraduate.html#music_ed) </p>

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<p>If you click on that link, it brings you to the JMU Graduate (Not undergrad) handbook. </p>

<p>Confusing, isn’t it. I can’t seem to find a JMU undergrad handbook link anywhere within JMU pages.</p>

<p>Email the listed music ed faculty, or PM the user KatMT, who is an MT advisor/faculty member at JMU (and posts frequently on the musical theater forum). She might be able to give you a direct contact.</p>

<p>car, your audition questions are very school specific. Requirements and timing vary, but are detailed within the audition websites for each school you’re applying to. In general, apps are due by Dec, but auditions can range from early Dec thru mid March. Some schools require joint acceptance to the music school and parent school, others don’t. </p>

<p>Music admissions is far different than “normal” college apps. An excellent overview is here <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/258796-so-you-want-music-major-one-familys-experience.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/258796-so-you-want-music-major-one-familys-experience.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Again, these topics and more are covered in depth at the music major forum. Most folks more than happy to help.</p>

<p>Don’t know where OP lives, but he/she can save a ton of money by going to Crane (SUNY Potsdam) which has a great music program at a fraction of the cost. A huge percentage of the music teachers in NYS either went to Crane or to Ithaca so there’s a great job network as well. Ithaca is more expensive but they give some merit aid so depending on your finances, it may be affordable. And if OP is OOS, the SUNYs are trying to draw out of state students, so they may offer decent merit/financial aid as well.</p>

<p>car, a bit of clarification on JMU. The music ed undergrad info for JMU is here [2008-2009</a> Undergraduate Catalog](<a href=“http://www.jmu.edu/catalog/08/programs/music.html#dmr]2008-2009”>http://www.jmu.edu/catalog/08/programs/music.html#dmr), which is a link to the the current music department section of the JMU undergrad handbook. </p>

<p>The links from the JMU Music department website misdirect you. It appears this is the only way “in” to the information since the direct links on the school’s website don’t work.</p>

<p>The Florida State University has a great music program. It’s affordable too.</p>

<p>Thanks - JMU does not come up on the search for Music Teacher Education. I will check into it!</p>

<p>My DD is a violist and we considered many school as she wanted to e a music ed major. We looked at Loyola New Orleans and were blown away. We only considered as an afterthought. When she went to audition she knew it was the place for her. We had an interview with the string program director who said “My students don’t apply for jobs, they just show up for work!!” Naturally I thought that was quite self-confident.</p>

<p>Oh and they also gave her a music scholarship basically equivalent to full tuition. Loyola New Orleans gives great merit aid to musicians for those interested.</p>

<p>My Dd’s education there was magnificent; the quality of the musicianship was extraordinary; we’d go to concerts and close our eyes and think we were in Carnegie Hall. When she was in her final semester she began interviewing and by Feb. or March of that year she had committed to a teaching job; I think that is remarkable. </p>

<p>Strongly consider Loyola New Orleans. At least you get to go to New Orleans a few times and that ain’t all bad!!</p>