my college list i need suggestions!

<p>im african american i have a 3.3 gpa and im in 2 sports 2 clubs and i work at a grocerie store. im also taking 2 AP classes.
1. East Carolina University
2. Kean University
3. Penn St. University
4. Rutgers University
5. University of Delaware
6. University of Massachusetts Amherst
7. University of North Carolina
8. William Patterson University</p>

<p>Penn State might be the hardest to get into of those. What are your SAT scores?</p>

<p>I’d work on the spelling of grocery before you submit your application.</p>

<p>What state do you live in? Actually, Carolina would be the hardest to get into.</p>

<p>Following on to tsdad’s question about your home state, can your family afford to pay OOS costs?</p>

<p>UNC and Penn State seem like pretty big reaches with your GPA. Maybe try UPitt?</p>

<p>What state are you from? Can your family afford out of state tuition? Is money an important factor?</p>

<p>im in jersey. and couldnt i get aid and grants if i went out of state. the main school i really want to go into tho is rutgers</p>

<p>Going OOS you would be limited to financial aid and grants. The Pell Grant max is ~$5500 as is the max freshman student loan. That’s $11K and using Penn State as an example, the total cost there would be ~$36K. UNC would meet need but I have no idea what your EFC is and it’s even harder to get in there than Penn State. Have you asked your family what they can pay?</p>

<p>Rutgers is a fine choice. If you’re worried about getting into the main campus, look at the satellites, apply to them as safeties and perhaps you could transfer to NB later. Paterson and Kean- dont know their admissions standards but they’d probably be a good back-up to Rutgers.</p>

<p>Most in-state universities are required to put top priority on fin aid for in-state kids. (And many don’t have a ton of money to begin with.) With your gpa, limited ECs and no community service, you won’t be in the top pool of kids for big financial aid at those.</p>

<p>*im in jersey. and couldnt i get aid and grants if i went out of state. *</p>

<p>Out of state publics don’t give their aid to OOS students. Publics don’t have much aid to give, so they reserve it for their own resident students (which isn’t much anyway). Most publics have to rely on federal aid, which is not much money at all.</p>

<p>If you’re low income, the most “free money” you’d get is about $5500. That’s not enough for OOS public costs which are typically about $35k per year or more. </p>

<p>How much will your family pay each year?</p>

<p>If your family won’t pay much, then take off all those OOS publics…they won’t be affordable.</p>

<p>You need to look at instate publics and some privates that want more AA males. </p>

<p>What are your SAT/ACT scores?</p>

<p>

Doubtful. Pitt’s admissions statistics are higher than Penn State’s. Probably a regional campus at either. Depends on SAT/ACT though.</p>

<p>William Patterson and Kean have HORRIBLE graduation rates.</p>

<p>Kean 4-yr 19%, 6-yr 45%
WP 4-yr 21%, 6-yr 52%</p>

<p>Rutgers is clearly your best bet. But you will need a safety or two, so I would recommend Rowan and possibly Montclair State, and perhaps Rutgers Camden and Newark.</p>

<p>Rutgers 4-yr 52%, 6-yr 77%
Rowan 4-yr 47%, 6-yr 67%
Montclair St 4-yr 30%, 6-yr 62%</p>

<p>The statistics are from NCES College Navigator
[College</a> Navigator - National Center for Education Statistics](<a href=“http://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/]College”>College Navigator - National Center for Education Statistics)</p>

<p>Excellent point, sacchi. To place Rutgers in context, these similar stats are from moneywatch.com. 4-year rates.</p>

<p>UCLA 59%
University of Texas 46%
University of Wisconsin 44%
Ohio State University 39%
University of Arizona 30%
Penn State University 56%
Indiana University 50%
University of Colorado 38%</p>

<p>thanks guys. im probably going to apply to rutgers nb and have rowan and montclair as safeties</p>

<p>^^^</p>

<p>your matches and reaches need to be privates that give good aid and want more male URMs. </p>

<p>Don’t waste your time with OOS publics unless you’re certain you can get a merit scholarship. </p>

<p>What are your SAT scores???</p>

<p>Also consider other NJ publics like TCNJ and Ramapo if they have your major.</p>

<p>yeah TCNJ is a great school i would love to get into but it may be a reach but i’ll still apply</p>

<p>Is TCNJ more of a reach than Rutgers???</p>

<p>What are your test scores?</p>

<p>Here are the mid 50 range for TCNJ</p>

<p>Middle 50% of
First-Year Students </p>

<p>SAT Critical Reading: 560 - 660<br>
SAT Math: 590 - 690<br>
SAT Writing: 570 - 670</p>

<p>^Since he won’t answer lol… According to his posts, his SAT is sumwhere between 1390-1500 (out of 2400). That’s less than 500 per section. He’s retaking I guess in October.
Unless the scores come up, half of the original list needs to seriously be reevaluated IMO</p>

<p>TCNJ is more selective than Rutgers, and would be a bigger reach than Rutgers for the OP. His SAT scores would be competitive for some of the less selective NJ public schools. Richard Stockton is another NJ public school to consider, which has much better graduation rates (4-yr 39 and 6-yr 66) than Kean and William Patterson.</p>

<p>Also worth looking into which private schools would have good aid for a male URM. I don’t have any suggestions myself, but the OP might want to start a new thread on the Financial Aid forum asking for suggestions.</p>

<p>Mike, you might want to consider TCNJ. Feel free to write me offline at <a href=“mailto:rifkin@tcnj.edu”>rifkin@tcnj.edu</a> to tell me about your academic interests and I’ll connect you with faculty and staff who can help you with whatever questions you might have. We have a great retention rate and a great graduation rate perhaps because we have small classes.</p>