<p>Another interesting crime article in Daily Pennsylvanian ... crimes going down. But the comments are again more interesting/revealing.</p>
<p>it's an open campus with a lot of crime</p>
<p>the crime at penn is not bad <em>at</em>all* according to <em>every</em>single<em>person</em> i've ever talked to about it.</p>
<p>Guys, how bad is west philly exactly? Can you describe it for me?</p>
<p>Here's a description of West Philly relating to crimes since you seem to be concerned with that the most,</p>
<p>...West Philadelphia neighborhoods suffer the same ills that affect other older urban areas. Over the last several decades there has been a substantial loss of middle class population, widespread poverty, property deterioration and abandonment, main streets that have declined and don't present the best face of the community, deteriorating infrastructure, and too many incidents of crime against people and property that have had devastating impacts in certain neighborhoods. These trends, although not pervasive, are persistent and have affected the quality and the perception of life in the larger West Philadelphia community. The trends that contribute to these negative perceptions must be halted and reversed if West Philadelphia is to sustain itself as a viable urban community.</p>
<p>something horrible happens to you or someone you know.</p>
<p>Regardless of what UPENN says about their own security/crime rate, the fact is that West Philly is a high crime ghetto, and bad people hang out on the campus grounds daily. I've seen undesirables all over the campus and surronding area- both times that I visited. If your argument is that the violent crack heads who live a few blocks away from campus never travel outside their homes, that is laughable. In fact there are tons of mentally ill, diseased, homeless people all over the place. After you go on the campus tour, later that night, take a walk by yourself around campus and a few blocks off campus. I dare you!</p>
<p>I hear ya, Ritchie.
However, is there REALLY a safe place left in this world??
I heard New Haven, CT. (Yale) is pretty bad.
Should anyone really avoid attending a prestigious instituion because of a certain group of society might be lurking in the shadows?</p>
<p>Ritchieboy, you sound very sheltered and elitist. </p>
<p>"I've seen undesirables all over the campus and surronding area- both times that I visited. If your argument is that the violent crack heads who live a few blocks away from campus never travel outside their homes, that is laughable."</p>
<p>It's that kind of mentality that makes me dislike people like you. So by visiting two times you have concluded the surrounding neighborhood consists of all violent crackheads. I will agree its not a "good" area, but honestly, it's like you have no friends so yo uhave to get your enjoyment by ripping on things on this message board.</p>
<p>New Haven is very bad too. So is the neighborhood outside the University of Chicago. Columbia is not in the best part of Manhattan...</p>
<p>My friend visited the Penn campus, and his car got broken into while he was on the campus tour</p>
<p>I have been to a great deal of college campuses around the country, and majority of them always seem to back up against "shady" areas of town, especially the elite schools.
I wonder why that is?</p>
<p>you know, some people actually live there. and those people are actually alive and well 0_0 appalling, huh?</p>
<p>heh if you think penn is dangerous dont go to chicago</p>
<p>or Detroit...</p>
<p>or new haven</p>
<p>Perhaps your English teacher is just a racist? I hate to say that, but there is no such thing as a criminal-based city. Philly is where our country was founded. It is a center of business and commerce. It is a wonderful city where many types of people can interact and coexist (this is true of most major cities). I'm from Denver, and in a lot of ways, Philly reminds me of a bigger and more historic version of Denver, but certainly I feel safe in both (a lot of relatives live in PA, so I'm there quite a bit). As someone said earlier, "one side of the campus borders a neighborhood that i wouldnt walk around in screaming the N word." This extreme example is about right, you likely won't find trouble unless you go looking for it. Denver, Philly, NYC, LA, Boston, Houston, whatever. City is city. I love it.</p>
<p>kudos, Tigerfan...
I stated in another post that I might have a different perception of a city given my age ( I am 32 years old), than someone who is 18 or 19 years old and coming right out of high school. A city's environment might not seem as "dangerous" to me, but who knows.
Plus, I was born and raised in Houston, so I'm quite used to the "city life".
I</p>
<p>That's cool you're from Colorado, Tigerfan.
I used to go up there and ski @ Purgatory every year.</p>
<p>You need to have common sense to live in any city.</p>
<p>"Columbia is not in the best part of Manhattan..."</p>
<p>It could be much worse...</p>