<p>I The best GPA she could walk away with even with all A’s averaged into her current grades is a 2.28. It is very unlikely that she will finish the term by pulling A’s in the second half. </p>
<p>This risk is not worth it especially when she has already told you she is not going to class or seeking help. She can indicate that she withdrew for personal reasons. </p>
<p>While right now she may be very immature adnd not ready for college. However, she may be ready in the future. She doesn’t want the mistakes of her youth to forever be part of her academic life in terms of academic probation and possibly academic dismissal which is very likely with current grades. If she stays on this track and her midterm grades become her final grades, she will finish the term with a gpa of .5625 and there will definitely be probation or dismissal.</p>
<p>Edit after seing course list:Most schools will not transfer a grade below a C. It does not make sense to carry over 1 credit. I would just cut the loss, chalk it up to an expensive lesson learned.</p>
<p>Personal Aspects of Teaching (1 credit) C
Early Childhood Art Ed. (2 credits) C-
Philosphy (3 credits) D
History (3 credits) F
Science (3 credits) F
Science Lab (1 credit) F
English Comp (3 credits) F and hasn’t attended since she got sick a month ago</p>
<p>She had strep throat and did miss some classes.
Looking at classes listed out like this make me feel less optimistic.
Nov. 7th is the “last day to drop classes with a record of a W”</p>
<p>If you are certain that she is coming home to attend a local school or CC,then withdraw from all,as getting C’s in the 1st 2 classes listed likely won’t transfer anyway…If you think she may stay for at least 1 more semester,withdraw from the F’s, and work on the remaining classes</p>
<p>I totally agree with you, bovertine, and do you want to know the explanation I got from the special ed. office? “We give kids a fairly full load in case they have to drop a class.” Isn’t that ridiculous!?? At my son’s private college, they gave them 13 or 14 credits the first semester.</p>
<p>Is this a smaller school where she has had multiple smaller assignments and quizzes or was there just one midterm exam? That makes a difference and might suggest she would be better off in a different environment. When I see the list, I also got scared because of the Philosophy grade - I don’t think it requires much effort to BS your way into a D in Phil 101.</p>
<p>Is there a last day to withdraw from the college and still recover some of your first semester tuition?</p>
<p>That is a ton of college for an immature student who may have other issues which require an IEP.</p>
<p>Her advisers signed off on this? If so, they need their heads examined as it sounds to me like somewhere along the line the best interests of this student got lost.</p>
<p>re withdrawing from some classes – does the school have a requirement of a minimum number of credits to be considered “fulltime?” and what implications are there if she drops below that – eg, can she stay in the dorms? can she continue on student health plan (if she is on it)? does if affect any aid she might be getting? etc. if she drops everything she is running an F in, that seems to leave only 6 credits – will the school let her continue if she is carrying so few credits?</p>
<p>Our DS called me in a panic last yr afraid he was getting a D in one class and wondered if he should drop it. I told him to buckle down and just try to get a C. He did and in the end he got a B.</p>
<p>One thing as others have pointed out, you are footing the tab. My sister gave great advice to me before our eldest went to school, make them take a student loan in their name. This way they are invested in getting the grades. We made the rule, you take the loan and as long as you carry a specific gpa we will pick up the loan when you graduate, CAVEAT no F’s, in other words you can’t get an A in one class to offset the F in another.</p>
<p>toledo, I just wanted to tell you that I’m very sorry to hear that you are dealing with this stressful situation. That does sound like a crazy schedule for a first semester freshman, especially a kid with an IEP. Her illness, though most likely not a primary factor, probably didn’t help matters any. One question I have is whether or not the midterm grades are a reflection of homework and projects not handed in during that time that can still be made up? Or were they earned based on actual test and paper grades? If the former, maybe there is still time to bring up some of the grades considerably. If that is not the case, I think I would be inclined to bring her home for now. She can always go back when she shows that she is ready.</p>
<p>The more I think about her class load and what the school told the parents about overloading the kids ‘in case they drop a class’ the more I think that something very unseemly or even fraudulent is going on.</p>
<p>How convenient for a school to admit special ed students, load them up with an impossible class load designed FOR them to fail, the college collects funds on all classes and probably more often than not does not have to deliver a full load of classes to the student. </p>
<p>What is the drop out rate of the college? Have you done any research to see if they have a reputation of kids falling into this trap? </p>
<p>Not to mention, the family has forked over a ton of money for what sounds like an early childhood education or teaching degree. Classes that can be had at a local community college for next to nothing. I can almost guarantee you most public CCs would not recommend a student with LDs take that sort of course load even if they wanted the tuition.</p>
<p>Whether or not you bring her home is up to you, but I guess if I didn’t think my d was grwon-up enough to choose studying over fun, she’d be a commuter student next semester. Still, it is not uncommon for LD students to want to “forget” they have disabilities. Please don’t be too hard on her advisors. Only the campus disability officer will know that she needs accommodations, and that’s only if she provided the officer with proper documentation. The information is confidential and the officer cannot share it, with anyone, without her permission, in writing. If you let her stay, do so under the condition that she seek out and then use the accommodations she is entitled to (and quit messing around and go to class, do homework). You will need to trust that she will follow through as the disabilities officer may not be able to talk to you. </p>
<p>For the classes she’s failing? Drop them if she still can. Not attending, not turning anything in means a 0, generally. Even all A’s for the second half of the semester (and that’s doubtful given the amount of class she’s missed) won’t save her. The D and C-? Depending on how the school grades, she might be best to drop those, too, if she doesn’t feel she can bring them up. Depending on the school’s grading scale, a C- might be a 1.67. If she’ll continue her education it’s best not to let the GPA fall below a 2.0.</p>
<p>denise, a college may not know a student has a disability when the admissions decisions are made. The student certainly doesn’t have to disclose it, and often won’t. It’s private info. I wouldn’t disclose it at admissions time, either. </p>
<p>Additionally, high school trascripts can be clear as mud. Sped/resource courses are often given misleading names. For instance, I saw one recently where the student took English 9, 10, 11, 12. Would that raise a red flag? No. Well, at this particular school, the regular track was English I, II, III, IV. 9, 10, etc? Resource room track.</p>
<p>I’ll add something that I don’t think anyone’s brought up yet.</p>
<p>Kids grow up, go through K-12, and everything about them is documented, on their record, and inescapable. There’s a feeling that you have to follow through with everything, or at least change your path in some explainable, “honorable” way because someday you’ll be explaining it to college admissions people. This puts a lot of stress on kids growing up - they feel like they can’t ever make a major mistake because it will ruin their life.</p>
<p>A friend’s S who was a top achiever in HS went to a top U right out of HS. There was a question of his maturity, but they hoped he would turn it around in college. But he couldn’t make it work; by now he had dropped as many classes as he could, but still couldn’t get himself going to do well. </p>
<p>He dropped out before the semester ended. Yes, it was a “waste” of money. He came home and worked and thought about what he really wanted to do. He then switched gears completely and went to a completely different kind of school and has been very happy. He’ll graduate a year “behind,” but who cares in the long run? </p>
<p>The important part: His feeling of relief when he was applying to the second school and found out that the “failure semester” never had to be told to anyone. It’s HIS business. Yes, transfer students have to explain in general what they’ve been doing, and some schools request “any” transcripts. But this school didn’t, and everyone’s able just to forget about his mistake and enjoy his success. Honestly once a kid is past HS they are allowed to live a private life, start over, not have every last breath be documented and scored. </p>
<p>I think learning you can make a fresh start is a tremendous step in beginning your adult life, and is probably worth some “wasted” tuition money.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, D says grades are based on tests and quizzes.</p>
<p>ordinarylives is correct when she says admissions don’t usually find out about IEP’s. We didn’t tell them. I did take a copy to the office of disabilities, in case D needed to use it. They are my next phone call.</p>
<p>Toledo- I feel for you. It could have very well been my son. He also did not use his accommodations as much as he should have. Over the last 4 yrs we have had some shoes drop big time. His disabilites office on the other hand advised that LD/ADD students start out with just 12 units the first semester. I know for my son your D’s course load would have probably have been more reading and writing then he could handle.
What does your D want? The money at this point is spent. Is she failing because she is partying or is she failing because she got overwhelmed and didn’t know how to dig herself out. If it is partying coming home is probably the best bet. If she can drop the F classes without anything but a W it probably is a good idea. Can you get permission from your D to talk with her advisor? If she is overwhelmed and can work out a study program to finish up the classes she is passing with a better grade maybe let her stay since the money is already spent. Enroll at the local college for spring.
There are no easy answers.</p>
<p>*Maybe I made a mistake when I told her that I had a bad first semester. By bad, I think I got a 1.9 GPA and was put on probation, but got all my credits. It’s a different situation if she has a 1.5 and only 6 credits. *</p>
<p>Did you tell her this before she went to college? IF so, that wasn’t a good idea. It just gave her permission to goof off AND took away your moral authority to expect good grades.</p>
<p>I have never supported telling kids about big mistakes - especially when there were little or no negative long-term consequences. </p>
<p>I would tell her that she needs to drop the classes that she has F’s in them - unless there’s some way to bring those grades up. And that she needs to bring the rest up to at least Cs.</p>