<p>imatard, i got my E-3 card recently and I noticed that I was recruited for siemens (bottom left):</p>
<p>actually now that I think about it, I would've have gotten in were it not for siemens, I got VERY lucky. i know some ridiculously smart people who definitely deserved to get in, but didn't--still a mystery to me why.</p>
<p>and siemens is quickly gaining in prestige to intel, they're pretty close nowadays</p>
<p>hey thanks for posting that kevin :)</p>
<p>damn. I dont think i can get in. </p>
<p>Ive only participated in regional sci. fairs - got first in microbio and second in eng
I tried out for siemens, but im from oh-so-lucky nj, trying STS
I went to national battlebots competition, got 7th place
I founded an entreprenurship club in my school and set up a plasma physics lab in conjunction with princeton plasma physics lab
some random ec's, bit more eng. stuff, OK sats, decent SAT (normal for my school, which has 1435 avg :eek: ), 3.89 out of 4 GPA.
got some awards, nothing spectacular other than the yale sci & eng. award (its internatonal but distributed at local sci fairs)</p>
<p>i think im mediocre. Probably rejected. </p>
<p>hey vecter- would it be possible to find out who got in already? ;) could u try to convice matt and others to accept all of us here? lol</p>
<p>lol chaitanya, there are no drawbacks for being from NJ, so get that out of your head</p>
<p>even if I could find out who got in (which I can't), I wouldn't tell anyone out of fairness, tho I have put a sales pitch to Matt for my friend from my high school, we'll see how that goes (I doubt in the end it makes any difference)</p>
<p>vecter - </p>
<p>2 years in a row no one from nj got picked. A kid from my school who went to RSI and put his project in siemens didnt get semis, a friend who got honorable mention in USAMO put in a math project didnt get semis, another friend who went to IChO didnt get semis, list goes on</p>
<p>were jinxed!</p>
<p>lol Tiankai liu didn't get anything from intel, and he's the smartest freshman in the entire country, so I don't think it's anything to do w/NJ per se (it is a small state, so it proportionally gets less representation). but if it is, reverse the curse!</p>
<p>Hey, vecter. . .are you Kevin from the Simmerling Lab, perchance? Just curious. This is David. . .you know, the kid working on the MutY project. I applied to MIT early action. . .deferral/rejection, here I come. . .</p>
<p>I got Siemens-Westinghouse semifinalist, but I know that's not enough to make up for my embarassing standardized test scores. It still would be nice to know how much winning Siemens-Westinghouse semifinalist means to MIT. . .maybe I do have a fighting chance. . .</p>
<p>. . .no I don't. . .</p>
<p>yes you do! Never give up.</p>
<p>hey sagar, I was a Siemens Westinghouse Regional Finalist this year and I would say you defintely have a shot at Siemens! I was pleading for semifinalist and I got a lot farther than i expected, so don't give up!</p>
<p>I got semi, and it wasn't a big deal. i really wanted regionals so i was pretty disappointed afterwards and forgot altogether about siemens.</p>
<p>a lot of my friends got to nationals though. in fact, i know 7 personally that all went to nationals. two of my close friends got 2nd for team, i was very proud of them. and yeah one of the girls is definitely getting ANY school she wants.</p>
<p>qubic - you go to stuy or bronx sci?</p>
<p>hi chaotic, yeah it's me! how're you doing? congrats on semis :)</p>
<p>I was in Matt McGann's office and he was actually running through the list of the semifinalists, so I'd think that it'd be a big boost. I guess you'll find out tomorrow? gl :)</p>
<p>no, but i do live on long island :)</p>
<p>I think it's also important to note that you shouldn't do research just because you want to submit it to siemens or intel STS. IF you take that attitude, it will show, and it's not good.</p>
<p>Example from personal experience. As a junior I joined a lab at a local university that is testing to see how Herpes Simplex Virus virion proteins interact with ribosomal initiation factors. I worked on the project through out junior and senior year and was excited to submit it the Siemens and Intel. I spent a ton of time writing up what I thought was a good paper.</p>
<p>Then when I showed it to my prof and my advisor, they didn't think it was appropriate b/c the research had not been published yet and they did not want me to submit the research since it belonged to their lab and it needed to be confidential until it was published. I was dissapointed, but I wrote an essay about the importance of collaboration in scientific research, which may have helped me get admitted.</p>
<p>The moral -- MIT thinks that Siemens is great, but they are more impressed by a thinking, creative, energetic scientist than they are by an ambitious, contrived recognition-exploiter.</p>
<p>Oh. I am not at all aiming my research towards these things. But I don't want to do something I have absolutely no hope in, or that has already been done. Also, I am Asian-Indian, in NC. What are my chances for NASA Sharp, if I have good academic and EC's?</p>
<p>I'm not sure. I know that programs like RSI are generally pretty sensitive to things like diversity, and as you probably know, being Asian American means that you will need to be tops. Another note, these programs, unlike MIT, don't pay attention to context. In other words, they don't discriminate b/w [a] your father is a researcher and he fed you his research since you were in middle school and ** you had to pursue a project completely independently. These programs will favor students who got involved with science really early, and sometimes given your situation, that might not have been possible.</p>
<p>sagar_indurkhya, your research projects are exactly what I have wanted to toy with ever since middle school, but I lacked the skills or resources that you apparently have had. It sounds like you have learned a lot from it. Congrats on your expertise in this field so early in life!</p>
<p>I am going to start sending out emails to local CS professors. Could anyone tell me some things of what to say, and what not to say? I dont' want to come off sounding arrogant, but i want to show them i am qualified.</p>
<p>You could tell them of your ideas and ask them for feedback. Don't tell them stuff like, I've been programming all my life and I am an expert in this area.</p>
<p>Say something like: My name is Sagar Indurkhya and I have some ideas that I have been experimenting with. I would like to do such and such, but do not know where to go from point such and such. Here is my idea: ....
Thank you for taking the time to blah blah blah, please respond.
Sincerely,
Sagar</p>
<p>hey sagar... this is lucie guo, i think we corresponded once this past summer.</p>
<p>the project my team submitted for siemens ended up winning the grand prize at nationals this year. it was the one on breast cancer. so i think i can maybe offer you some advice. </p>
<p>advice: your motivation for doing siemens should NOT be trying to use it to get into college. it should be something you're truly fervent about, because only pure passion can carry you through the whole process.</p>
<p>the entire competition experience was amazing, and i definitely recommend the siemens competition to anyone who's interested. i hope your project goes far. good luck!</p>
