<p>Name your top 8 for each of the following three categories: Ivies, non-ivy private, and best public</p>
<p>My list:</p>
<p>Ivies</p>
<p>Harvard=Princeton=Yale
Brown=Columbia=Cornell=Dartmouth=Penn</p>
<p>Non-ivy Private</p>
<p>Stanford=MIT= Caltech
Duke=Chicago=Williams=Amherst=Swarthmore</p>
<p>Best Public</p>
<p>Berkeley=UVA=UCLA=Michigan=UNC=W&M
Wisconsin=UIUC</p>
<p>Mine would be pretty similar to yours.
Ivy:
HYP
Rest of the Ivies</p>
<p>Non Ivy:
Stanford=MIT
Cal Tech
Duke=Chicago
JHU=Vandy=WUSTL</p>
<p>Public:
Berkeley
UVA=Michigan
UCLA=UNChapel
Everything else…</p>
<p>Ivy:
Harvard
Yale= Princeton
Columbia= UPenn= Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell</p>
<p>Non-Ivy
Stanford
MIT= Caltech= Duke= Williams= Amherst
Chicago= JHU</p>
<p>Public
Berkeley= UCLA= UVa
UNC= Michigan= W&M
Wisconsin= Penn State</p>
<p>Ivy:
Harvard
Yale=Princeton
Dartmouth=Columbia=Brown=UPenn
Cornell</p>
<p>Non-Ivy:
Stanford=MIT=Caltech
Duke=UChicago=Northwestern=Williams=Amherst
JHU=WashU</p>
<p>Public:
Berkeley=UMich
UVa=UCLA=UNC=W&M
UW-Madison=Penn State=University of Washington</p>
<p>Ivy:
H=Y=P
Columbia=Dartmouth
Penn
Cornell=Brown</p>
<p>Non-Ivys:
Stanford=MIT
Williams=Amherst=Caltech
Duke=Northwestern=U of Chicago
Emory=WUST=Vanderbilt
JHU=Georgetown=CMU</p>
<p>Publics:
Berkeley=UVa
UCLA=UMich=UNC=W&M</p>
<p>Mines will be a bit different. </p>
<p>Brown=Columbia=Cornell=Harvard=Yale=Princeton=Dartmouth=UPenn</p>
<p>Standford=Oxford=Cambridge=MIT=Caltech=UChicago=JHU=London School of Economics</p>
<p>Berkeley=W&M=UMichigan=UVA=UCLA=UNC=WUSTL=Wisconsin</p>
<p>What’s with all these equal signs?</p>
<p>Ivy:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Dartmouth
Columbia
UPenn
Brown
Cornell</p>
<p>Non-Ivy:
Caltech
Stanford
MIT
Chicago
Duke
Rice
Northwestern
John Hopkins</p>
<p>Public:
Berkeley
Virginia
UCLA
Michigan
UNC</p>
<p>…</p>
<p>William and Mary
UC San Diego (this school isn’t the most excitable but it deserves this position.)
GeorgiaTech (why isn’t this on more lists?)</p>
<p>This thread = USNews rankings = fail.</p>
<p>Ivy:
Harvard
Yale=Princeton
Dartmouth=Columbia=Brown=UPenn
Cornell</p>
<p>Non-Ivy:
Stanford=MIT=Caltech
UChicago=Northwestern=Duke=Willams=Amherst
JHU=WashU</p>
<p>Public:
Berkeley=UMich
UVa=UCLA=UNC=W&M
UW-Madison=UIUC=University of Washington</p>
<p>Collective opinion of 2,000 academics:</p>
<p>Ivy:
Harvard = Princeton (4.9)
Yale (4.8)</p>
<p>Columbia (4.6)
Penn = Cornell (4.5)
Brown (4.4)
Dartmouth (4.3)</p>
<p>Non-Ivy, Private:
Stanford = MIT (4.9)</p>
<p>Caltech = Chicago (4.6)
Johns Hopkins (4.5)
Duke (4.4)
Northwestern (4.3)
Carnegie Mellon (4.2)</p>
<p>Publics:
Berkeley (4.7)</p>
<p>Michigan (4.4)
Virginia (4.3)
UCLA (4.2)
North Carolina = Wisconsin (4.1)
Georgia Tech = Illinois (4.0)</p>
<p>:D</p>
<p>Non-Ivy:
Stanford, MIT, Caltech
UChicago, Duke
JHU, WUSTL, NU</p>
<p>Public:
Berkeley, Michigan
UVA, UCLA
UNC, UW-Madison</p>
<p>Ivy:
HYP
Columbia
Dartmouth, Penn
Cornell, Brown</p>
<p>Some schools and their alumni love to ride on research glory. Ride on bruv</p>
<p>Thanks for the input above.</p>
<p>SentimentGX4, Equal sign means the institutes with equal strengths (ranks).</p>
<p>As indicated in the titled “Name your top 8…”, you are invited to post your opinions based on any references that are deemed reliable or trustworthy, including but not limited to resources e.g. USNews, Forbes, Newsweek, Money, USA Today, Washington Monthly, and Princeton Review. The skies are unlimited as long as you can back up your post with your selection hypotheses or criteria. These criteria may include but are not limited to schools’ reputation, their students’ selectivity, their graduates’ starting pay scale, and/or achievements of their Alumni.</p>
<p>Institutions considered should include not only National Universities but also National Liberal Arts Colleges. The latter, which have long been overlooked in the shadow of National-Universities-Rankings-prevalent practices, deserve our fair considerations, too.</p>
<p>Both numerical and tier-rankings are good even though I personally prefer the latter. After all, they are all best of the best. It would be very difficult to split hair between them at this level.</p>
<p>Please keep posting. </p>
<p>Soon, we will advance to next step—to discuss which schools belong to the top 8 in the “non-ivy private” and “best public” categories since ivies are fixed. Don’t get me wrong, in my opinion, most aforementioned schools are as good or competitive as ivies; but we only reserve 8 spots in each of the two categories so that it may (hopefully) allow us room to compare their strengths with ives’ (the steps after).</p>
<p>Research glory=respect from other academics and international prestige. LACs do not even exist in most countries. Also far more a measure of the school than the students who decide to show up. Students come and go–the faculty is the heart of the college that endures.</p>
<p>
Harvard University would be nothing today without the generous alumni support it receives. The money from its graduates over the past several centuries has allowed the institution to hire top-notch faculty, build state-of-the art facilities, implement a superior financial aid policy and provide 1,600 of the most talented students in the globe with a world-class education.</p>
<p>It’s the graduates of a university, who were once students there, who support the existence of any private school. Faculty in fact come and go pretty rapidly at any school nowadays. At the top private schools, each crop of 1,500-2,000 academic standouts is replaced with an even more brilliant group of 1,400-2,000 students.</p>
<p>The [Center</a> for Measuring University Performance (2009)](<a href=“http://mup.asu.edu/research2009.pdf]Center”>http://mup.asu.edu/research2009.pdf)</p>
<p>Private:
Columbia=Duke=Harvard=MIT=Northwestern=Standford=Chicago=Penn=Washington St. Louis=Yale</p>
<p>Public:
Cal-Berkely=UCLA=Illinois-UC=Michigan=UNC-Chapel Hill=Pitt=Wisconsin</p>
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<p>More of the same, modelingLiao? <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/944249-big-name-public-universities-berkeley-uva-michigan-unc-ucla-versus-non-hyp-ivies.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/944249-big-name-public-universities-berkeley-uva-michigan-unc-ucla-versus-non-hyp-ivies.html</a></p>
<p>Is that all we needed for Christmas … another endless and worthless debate of opinions? ;(</p>
<p>^ Merry Christmas, xiggi. :)</p>
<p>This is so elitist and stupid. You guys are all picking just based on prestige.</p>
<p>I think the CMUP captures some good indicators US News and others overlook to a large extent. And it’s numbers rather than “reputation” driven. Pitt was a surprise to me but they deliver solid numbers across the board. Good for them.</p>