<p>so today i just found I got into NAPS, and I read somewhere on the discussion board that you can still get in directly to the USNA, and I was just wondering if this was true. I also was wondering what the actual requirements are of a NAPS student to get into the USNA the next year.</p>
<p>Dont get me wrong NAPS is a great opportunity and Im going to go there I just wanted to get some answers to these questions.</p>
<p>yes its true, you need to keep a gpa of X though...and dont mess up at NAPS haha</p>
<p>Does anyone know how USNA decides between, if an offer of immediate admission is not made, offering a Foundation school or NAPS?</p>
<p>My son's @ NAPS this year. He needs a 2.0 to move on to USNA (Coasties @ NAPS need a 2.5, I believe), plus passing PT, and no behavioral problems. He also needed another nomination, which he got, so hang onto your MOC paperwork, Plegend. (I'm told NAPS admin helps w/ a Sec'y of the Navy nomination for NAPSters who don't get one from a MOC.)</p>
<p>I wonder about Foundation -vs- NAPS, too. As I'm sure you know, NAPS gets priors and a lot of recruited athletes. I don't know how Foundation does or doesn't differ from that.</p>
<p>The rule of thumb is that recruited athletes and enlisted fleet members are sent to NAPS with the other candidates being offered Naval Academy Foundation scholarships to attend private prep schools. However, there are exceptions to this rule.</p>
<p>Quote by Great American:
"However, there are exceptions to this rule."</p>
<p>Probably enough exceptions to defy your rules. </p>
<p>From the entering Class of 2010, only 57 of the 233 NAPsters were ex-enlisted fleet members. Additionally, approximately 20% of the total class were recruited athletes. The vast majority were regular applicants in need of an academic boost.</p>
<p>Last year, 12 of 63, again approximately 20%, Foundation grant recipients were recruited athletes. The remainder, again, were regular applicants in need of an academic boost.</p>
<p>Spreading misinformation such as this is not only harmful to potential candidates weighing the probabilities of their options, but could be detrimental to NCAA athletic programs.</p>
<p>I had to go to naps for academic reasons even though I was always an honor student. Of course naps ended that! Other than that what NorthernCalMother is correct.</p>
<p>My son's there for academics, too -- his SATs weren't where they should have been for USNA, though he was also an honor student w/ leadership, EC's, awards, etc. </p>
<p>Technically, he's being treated as a recruited athlete, although it's for a sport he wants to try but in which he has no experience. He doesn't fit the mold I think of as "recruited athlete." To USNA69's point, NAPS has to maintain the Academy's NCAA proportion. </p>
<p>I once ran across a DoD report online that said NAPS's goal was to prep certain candidates from three groups: priors, recruited athletes, and URMs. I've met a half dozen kids there who didn't appear to contribute to those goals - they seemed to be candidates who brought something special to consideration, but weren't a perfect fit for the USNA profile. All that's anecdotal, of course, but the selection process itself sometimes seems a little anecdotal to me. I'm just happy for my son that the Academy offered him a route to help make his dream come true. </p>
<p>Good luck to you, Plegend.</p>
<p>NothernCalMother
What is a "SAT weren't where they should have been"? I know no one likes to say what the line is but any anecdotal information would help.</p>
<p>yea Im just a civilian. I want to play football once I get there, I played football in high school, but wasn't recruited so I'm gonna use this year to improve physically and academically.</p>
<p>Folks, I'm NAPS '87 and unless things have radically changed, some of what you are reading here isn't exactly correct.</p>
<p>First, NAPS is intended for applicants who, for whatever reason, were not given a direct appointment to USNA but who scored well enough that they don't want to ditch you, either. In a very real sense, NAPS is where the first 250 or so candidates who missed the USNA appointment cut get sent.</p>
<p>The mix at NAPS is similar to the mix at USNA. Sure, there are plenty of prior-enlisted at NAPS, but that is mainly because the Navy wants to get them back up to speed academically. The same applies to certain civilian applicants (like me), who needed to polish their studies a bit. That does NOT, however, mean that all enlisted applicants go through NAPS first. There are plenty who go straight into USNA.</p>
<p>As for going from NAPS to USNA, the bottom line is that if you graduate NAPS, you get an appointment to USNA. 2.0 GPA, passed physical standards, etc. Nothing special other than meeting the minimum requirements. As for a nomination, everyone at NAPS is awarded a SECNAV nomination (I got mine without even asking for it). The only doubt I have is whether that nomination is enough (I managed to get my Congresscritter's nomination that year, too.). That is one item one of our resident BGO's can answer with more authority than I can.</p>
<p>Those who get appointments to NAPS do NOT get appointments to USNA as well during the same year (i.e. - you don't get to choose which one to go to). Unless I am radically mistaken, NAPS appointments are made AFTER the appointments to USNA are completed, which makes sense if you think about it. Again, a bona-fide BGO can confirm or correct this.</p>
<p>Finally, let me tell you this from first-hand experience. If you get an appointment to NAPS, GRAB IT. It is VERY much worth the extra year. Trust me.</p>
<p>I just want to add a few thoughts to Z's post...</p>
<p>NAPs, as well as foundation, still require you to seek out a nom from your MOC....which usually come through....but in case they don't, they will find one for you. </p>
<p>Foundation program is very similiar to NAPS, although without the military side of things, providing you dont select the few military schools that are on the foundation list. While NAPS requires a "2.0 and go," you will be expected to take chem, calc, english lit and any other required courses at the foundation school you attend, and acheive A's and B's in your coursework....while a "C" might be explainable, "Deltas" and "Foxtrots" will be difficult to get past the admissions board.</p>
<p>The foundation limits its athletic sponorship to 20% each year.... for the class of 2010, there were 64 sponsored candidates, 63 of which received appointments. Of those, 20% were recruited athletes for various sports. One added note: the academies are not able to "redshirt" their athletes for a 5th year of D-1 varsity at taxpayers expense....so NAPS and the foundation programs are also used to give recruited athletes another year to develop physically...</p>
<p>in any event, if USNA is your goal, and if you have been offered NAPS or the foundation program, my best advice would be to run, don't walk, to the nearest postbox and mail your acceptance....they are wonderful programs, and they WILL ABSOLUTELY make your adjustment to USNA that much easier- from EVERY vantage point.....</p>
<p>One other thing...if you go to NAPS you have to enlist in the Naval Reserves. This comes as a surprise to some candidates who have to get sworn in by a local recruiter.</p>
<p>My son's there for academics, too -- his SATs weren't where they should have been for USNA, though he was also an honor student w/ leadership, EC's, awards, etc. </p>
<p>If you are at liberty to say, what were your sons SAT scores?</p>
<p>Quote by navy2010:
"so NAPS and the foundation programs are also used to give recruited athletes another year to develop physically..."</p>
<p>This just isn't true. As I mentioned yesterday on the nominations thread, if the recruited athlete is academically qualified by the Admissions Board, he or she will go to the Academy. If the candidate has academic deficiencies and is unable to be academically qualified, he or she will be sent to either the Foundation or NAPS. Pure and simple. No imputs by the coaches. It is a sole decision, based only on academics, and made by tho board. Neither is a weight or conditioning camp, or a red shirt location. Both are limited in the number of recruited athletes to the amount of athletes in the Brigade, approximatelt 20%. Anything other than the above scenario would be a violation of NCAA rules and regulations.</p>
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<p>Yep. I still remember the day I took my first of many Navy oaths. :)</p>
<p>Can someone really explain the multiple "oaths?" I'm not clear on what they're swearing to when...:confused:</p>
<p>^^^^^
Every time an officer is promoted s/he has to take an oath of office.</p>
<p>The "Candidates" will take the oath of office "to protect and defend" for the first time on I-Day, following all of their processing, at a huge assembly in T-court...</p>
<p>they will take it again during PPW, towards the end of plebe summer...
following that, they will repeat the oath come the first day of classes in Junior year, then again at commissioning....</p>
<p>How many candidates are admitted to NAPS? Foundation?</p>
<p>If 2000 candidates are "Scholastically Qualified" and only 1500 are offered Appointments then do the 500 who do not get offers of Appointments get offers to NAPS or Foundation?</p>