National Merit Finalists at ASU

Apologies if this question is answered elsewhere - I used to think of myself as good at google :wink: but can’t find it! My D (HS class of 2025) has been admitted to ASU and Barrett, but she is a music major and probably will not hear about music admission until late March.

In the meantime, she is a National Merit Finalist and needs to figure out which university to list as her first choice. I understand that the New American University award will get “upgraded” from President to National Scholar level if she lists ASU - but how much is that scholarship? Would really appreciate any insight from other NMFs or NMF parents about how the program works. ASU is high on her list and we know that merit aid will not cover the full cost of attendance but would like to have a general sense of likely out of pocket cost as we work through the next couple of months.

Thanks!

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Hi I was just looking around on this site, my oldest daughter goes to ASU and is in Barrett, she’s a sophomore. She was not a national merit finalist, but I decided to take a look at ASU’s scholarship calculator out of curiosity and see there is a box to check off if you are. In case you haven’t seen this calculator before:
Scholarship calculator
Best of luck!

Thanks very much! I do like those calculators, but wanted a bit more certainly so I called and the national merit upgrade is full tuition. Hard to find on website!

Congratulations! If you want to find out more about ASU I can answer some questions (I hope!) and I can point you to a few Facebook groups for ASU parents.

Hi @MathandSinging - my DS is NMF at ASU right now. The NMF scholarship covers tuition and many fees. For my DS, he is taking subsidized federal loans only. Our out-of-packet is about $6k per semester. He is in student housing with a meal plan. Next year he is moving off campus, it looks like that will reduce many of the costs. There are other scholarships available from the college of your student’s major. My DS is also a TA, he makes about $1k per semester doing that.

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Thanks so much for this - confirmed by admissions officer too. Now just waiting for music audition (and hopefully scholarship) decisions to come in. ASU’s programs are a really good fit for my D, but she’s getting excited about the other schools where she’s already got good offers in hand - hoping to hear soon so ASU doesn’t end up falling off the list!

To be clear the NMF scholarship covers tuition and many fees only for instate students. For out-of-state students it covers tuition but no fees.

I disagree @NJEngineerDad - tuition is $14,400 per semester. My DS received $16,600 each semester. We are from CA. It does not cover housing or meal plans. But, it is covering everything else.

@usma87 Interesting, thanks.

Hope you don’t mind me asking a more detailed question based on such an old post. Our daughter is anticipating this same award and I am trying to plan for our most-likely cost of enrolling at ASU Barrett.

Are you saying they basically are covering all ‘fees’ in addition to the base tuition? And do you know if that include the $1000/semester Barrett fee? Grateful for any additional info on this.

For us, the fees were covered. I think that has changed since. Another NMF parent recently showed that he was getting only tuition.

Depending on your EFC, you may still get some help with fees and R&B. If not, our DS has taken some Federal student loans. Our out-of-pocket was roughly $5k per semester.

My suggestion, start a discussion with the Barrett admissions recruiters. They can provide accurate, up-to-date information. They are super nice. They want to add as many NMFs as they can.

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Agree 100% re: calling Barrett or even the normal admissions officer. My recollection is that they were super helpful. ASU almost seems to be hiding the details on their website and in other materials, where other big NMF state schools (OU, I’m looking at you!) will send you a detailed breakdown of every penny they offer, in every way imaginable, on at least a weekly basis. :wink: Not a criticism necessarily, I LOVE ASU and wish my kid went there, just a suggestion for improvement in recruiting NMFs.

My daughter ended up choosing a school that did not advertise their NMF $$ (about $25k/year - no longer available to new students) at all - she didn’t even know about it for weeks after acceptance! Seems really that it’s hard to get this information!

Agreed - some schools are not as aggressive in advertising their NMF $$. IMO, it is an intentional strategy. Some schools see value in drawing NMF level students. For others, it’s a nice bonus to have these students. In these cases, the details are tough to find. It is part of the reason I became somewhat jaded by the whole NMSC process.

We had a different experience. My son is now in his third year at ASU. We are from NJ. He did not make NMF but made NHRP and got a pretty high SAT score (1550 single-sitting).

His initial list of colleges only contained engineering colleges on the East coast as we did not know much about colleges elsewhere.

But he received a letter in October of his senior year of high school from ASU offering him to go for a sleepover at Barrett and a promise of a full tuition scholarship if he enrolled. That is from far the strongest advertising campaign we have seen from colleges.

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We got a similar invite from Texas A&M this summer. They covered our hotel and meals to come visit with a guaranteed scholarship of $6,000 per year which is about half in state tuition. (We are in state.) We took them up on it and went. I planned our trip already to ASU for Sun Devil Day with a tour of Barrett and Herberger. But maybe we will receive a better invite in October? That would be great if she could stay in Barrett! I can always stay at my moms as originally planned. :grinning:

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Nice invite from Texas A&M!

The invite from ASU was only for the prospective student. Parents could go visit too but at their own expense. We let our son go by himself. It was extremely well organized. Good directions to get from the airport to the campus via the Light Rail. Dinner at the Barrett Dining Hall with the overnight host. Bed sheets and towels provided for the night. Tour of ASU and Barrett in the morning. Lunch. Presentation of the Engineering department. Back home via a red-eye flight.

The link we were given at the time now takes to a page that says “Unfortunately, we have cancelled the Student Experience Day program for the remainder of the Spring 2020 semester due to COVID-19”. I therefore assume that the program will probably not resume until Fall 2022.

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Very nice ASU program! Here’s hoping they reopen it this year. :crossed_fingers: if not it’s ok I booked our flight (refundable) and we will stay with my mom in town. Yeah TAMU’s was for the student and a parent. We had dinner in the chancellors suite at Kyle field with the group and stayed the night in their hotel and conference center on campus. There were about a dozen students from our region plus a parent each . Then campus tour and panels the next day.

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