<p>We just got a letter stating that my son has been palced on the national waiting list. After we recieved the letter we made a phone call to admissions and we were told that his file was very strong but we realize that is is difficult to recieve an appointment off of the waiting list. Can anyone give us any hope?</p>
<p>They have to at least take set number off the list. If you're high up on the list, I won't worry about it. Sorry I don't have more details.</p>
<p>Can you give us his stats--CFA score, GPA, SAT? Thanks.</p>
<p>I don't know the total CFA score but the admissions officer we spoke to said it was above average. GPA is 3.5 unweighted. Above avererage SAT which was particularly strong verbally. We live in northern VA. so it is particularly difficult. He does have a presidential and congressional nomination. I just want to give him some hope.</p>
<p>HArd to really SHINE coming from NOVA...I will keep your son's appointment in my prayers</p>
<p>Thanks Lizvinia. My first son graduated from West Point. I know something about the waiting list. If your son has a high number on the list, he has a good shot of getting in. Stay in touch with Admissions and continue to add any new accomplishments to his file. I believe he is in a national pool now as opposed to your competitve regional pool.</p>
<p>I have a second son applying this year and I was interested in the individual CFA scores to see where he stands. There is less information about what is considered a passing score or scores with the new test. </p>
<p>Good luck to your son.</p>
<p>Thanks. My son did run a 6:35 mile. Congratulations on your first son and good luck to your youngest. Has he heard anything yet?</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>Our son received a nomination and has just completed his file. I will keep you posted.</p>
<p>Is there a way to find out how many candidates are placed on USMA National Waiting List and an individual candidate's rank of the list? Will Admissions give this information over the phone?</p>
<p>spongebob,I don't know how many are put on the list. The Captain my husband talked to today said as many as 500 are pulled from the list. I don't know what number my son is on the list but they told me his chances are good. He has applied to several other schools and so we have a back up plan but he is dissapointed to say the least.</p>
<p>liz,</p>
<p>It's too early to be disappointed. And someone here can let you know if they are increasing the number of the corps by offering appointments to more candidates for the class of 2010. I'm just not sure if that final decision has been made yet, but it sounded likely when others were talking about it. In that case, I'd bet that the NWL will be important to increase the pool. I can suggest regularly updating his file with any additional honors - academic, club, community service, and athletic - as well as 7th semester grades, can only help. Keep in touch with the Admissions representative also.</p>
<p>lizinva: Keep the faith. Here's some information that might increase your optimism.</p>
<p>In the last three years, about 55% of qualified male candidates were admitted to West Point. But that number doesn't count the number of candidates who declined appointment offers. If West Point's acceptance rate for appointment offers is similar to Navy's, an additional 20% (200) of male candidates are offered appointments but decline (or cannot pass the DOBMERB or other requirements). That means that about 75 percent of qualified candidates receive offers of appointment.</p>
<p>With applications down from last year, I would expect the percentage of offers to qualified candidates to increase. In one year in the 1970's, 100% of qualified candidates were offered appointments.</p>
<p>Don't get discouraged if you hear that relatively few candidates of the NWL receive offers. Here's my understanding of one reason why the official "offer rate to NWL candidates" number is low.</p>
<p>If an offer of appointment is declined by a candidate in MOC district XYZ, the next most qualified candidate in district XYZ is extended an offer, regardless of where that candidate is on the NWL (for example, if the next most qualified district xyz candidate is number 200 on the NWL, he gets the offer even though there are 199 other candidates with higher rankings on the NWL). For reporting purposes, that candidate is dropped from the NWL and his offer is not counted as an "offer to a NWL candidate". Thus, the number of candidates who were on the NWL at some time and later received appointment offers is much higher than the official number cited by the USMA admissions personnel.</p>
<p>Hope this re-energizes your hope batteries. Good luck.</p>
<p>lizinva:</p>
<p>My son didn't receive an appointment until MID-MAY. We had already sent his deposit to UCLA (UCLA still hasn't closed the email account they gave him and we get parent mailings from UCLA) My son was on the National Waiting List. So don't freak out. Continue to stay in touch with your regional admissions officer. Anything your son does can continue to make a difference. My son achieved the rank of Eagle Scout two weeks before his appointment - I think it made a difference. Sports, community activities, etc. should all make a difference. </p>
<p>BUT - your son should enjoy his senior year and not do things JUST to get into West Point. He should put it aside and concentrate on other schools too. Has he applied to AROTC programs? If he truly wants to be an officer in the U.S. Army, ROTC is a perfectly fine way to make it, e.g. Colin Powell. A recent Chief of Naval Operations started in the Navy out of Officer Candidate School.</p>
<p>Thanks for the words of encouragement. We will keep our hopes high. I am hoping they just want his semester grades.</p>
<p>Big Green, Thankyou. My son is also an Eagle Scout and they told me he got quite a few points for that. He has applied for ROTC at Virginia Tech, Texas A&M, UVA, Georgetown and Washington and Lee. Hopefully he will get into W.P. but if not I am sure he will do fine anyway. How is your son doing at W.P.?</p>
<p>lizinva:</p>
<p>Thanks for asking. My son is doing great. 3.9 gpa in first semester, was "asked" to move up to advanced courses in all of his work for the second semester, he made the corps squad in a Div. 1 top 20 sport (he wasn't recruited), and has been selected for several honors, including an upcoming trip to meet Coach K at Duke (Coach K is a West Pointer).</p>
<p>Washington and Lee is a tight school with an amazing ROTC program at VMI. I go there right now and both W&L and VMI are incredibly supportive of W&Lers doing ROTC. If your son doesn't get in at WP, but still wants to go, I'd advice him going to W&L because the VMI experience is amazing.</p>
<p>Skirby, what is your major? My son is interested in Political Science.</p>
<p>Y'all are my heros. lol.</p>
<p>my son was on NWL last year.. is currently in civil prep program, received this also very late in process..btw, it looks like a great option -.. I never fully understood the NWL, as they supposedly have to take 150 off this list --but i think LOA,etc count from this ...</p>
<p>It is nerve racking biggreens admission gave hope last year</p>