<p>what the heck is this? i checked it out online and it seemed legitimate. but i'm not sure. </p>
<p>can anyone tell me anything about it? is it any help to my chances at colleges?</p>
<p>from what i've heard it doesn't help at all for college. the experience isn't world class either</p>
<p>i mean it doesnt neccesarily help for college, but it shows dedication. </p>
<p>for example, i attended NYLF for medicine two summers ago. I had a good time in DC, experience gtown university (its my number one choice now), and had great friendships with new ppl. </p>
<p>i mean its not a challenging program cuz pretty much any decently smart kid can attend it, u pretty much buy ur way in. </p>
<p>but it did show dedication to medicine in my resume. hopefully it helps me durin colleges apps this fall!</p>
<p>yeah, it costs bunch of bucks and so I attended my free state funded summer program which indeed was quite selective and an experience to remember! ;)
if u've nothing else to do in summer+got enough money to afford it: GO FOR IT! ;)</p>
<p>okay now i got an idea. thanks guys for ur feedbacks!</p>
<p>anyone know about the one on diplomacy and national security?
I want to pursue International Relations, and it sounds interesting..but I don't know about the money.</p>
<p>Hah. They keep spamming me with all kinds of offers. If I have any sort of time next summer, I might do the medicine one. Though, I kind of need that money for college+medical school.</p>
<p>I don't know that much about NYLF, but I attended NYLC which is run by the same organization and it was awesome. You might also look into LeadAmerica, which gives you college credit and has a bunch of different themed programs (I went to the forensics one...they staged a murder the first night and we spent the 10 days figuring out what happened ^_^ It was great!).</p>
<p>Shadow123, it's obvious you've only heard about these programs and never actually been to one. The only people who have a bad experience are the people who go into it with the wrong mindset. These are all the types of programs that you get out of it what you put in. I still talk to people from my NYLC 2 years later. That says something.</p>
<p>Pretty much like everyone already said: it's not very selective, but it's definitely a great experience. I'm attending this summer, so I don't really have first-hand experience, but I researched it A LOT. Based on what I found, I really recommend attending. Of course, NYLF is not enough on its own- you need to show your dedication through your grades, volunteer work, and other extracurriculars.</p>
<p>^Have a great time! Remember, you'll get out of it what you put in. ^_^</p>
<p>I agree with you...I did 2 summer programs, but my ECs and grades and everything else were really good as well. I like to think both summer programs, while not selective, both helped me a little.</p>
<p>I completely agree. And I'm honestly not going because it's another thing to put on my college aplication, but because it sounds like I will learn so many interesting things and have a great experience.</p>
<p>Oh, and I just wanted to add that I went to Jr. NYLC. I loved it, but you probably got more out of NYLC than I learned when I went, since it was the summer going into seventh grade, and I was, like, terminally shy then. I did love it, though!</p>
<p>You're going into it for the right reason, and I'm sure you'll have an amazing time!</p>
<p>Like I said, if you ever wanna do something else, try LeadAmerica...it was even better for me than NYLC!!! And you can do it the summer after you graduate HS as well, so timing isn't really an issue. (I highly recommend the CSI one, but I'm sure they're all awesome.)</p>
<p>Everything depends upon what you exactly want....pretty much. Like if you want something really rigorous, college like, NYLF isn't just the thing. But if you are seeking a unique experience w/ emphasis on interaction, leadership and such, NYLF can be a decent choice</p>
<p>Yeah, I think I might do LeadAmerica, probably on medicine (you get college credit for that, right?), a course in calculus so I can skip ahead in math, or research (I'm looking into programs similar to NIH). Probably not for this upcoming summer, though, but in Summer of '09.</p>
<p>This summer, I'm doing a lot of volunteering at hospitals, getting an EMT license so I can volunteer as an EMT, and attending NYLF/Med. I might take a Geometry course if I can find one that either ends on July 12 or starts on July 23, but I've had no luck with that so far.</p>
<p>Yes, you get one or two (though you have to pay for the second and it's about $400) college credits. ^_^ I know a couple people who have done the medicine one if you want some contacts.</p>
<p>All Doctor Aspiring Students:-
don't forget one thing that undergrad will never be all about medicine! In fact, you'd hardly study any real medicine in undergrad studies. So, don't forget to take courses you may want to try. Don't dump your Summers and any other opportunities with all doctor-like stuffs, being certified as EMT (not just for the sake of having the "certification" and that kinda achievement feeling, but if you really have passion for it!), yes, so, don't have a pre-assumption that attending the nYLf or being certified as cna or anything else and taking more biology courses in HS will actually give you any edge when it comes to application to med. school and such. do those if you enjoy doing those...so, bottom line is: do thoes for the sake of you, to have enjoyment, and great time! </p>
<p>Try out new stuffs, which may not necessarily be related to medicine.......and pursue your true "passion" these counts a lot when you are applying to undergrad and med school. You are supposed to be career focused by the end of sophomore year at college not by the beginning of freshman year at high school! :)</p>
<p>sorry for throwing out these common advices..I just felt like sharing some advices.</p>
<p><<Shadow123, it's obvious you've only heard about these programs and never actually been to one. The only people who have a bad experience are the people who go into it with the wrong mindset. These are all the types of programs that you get out of it what you put in. I still talk to people from my NYLC 2 years later. That says something.<<</p>
<p>Few people have a bad experience at NYLF events, but is the experience worth the price???
My daughter went 2 years ago to the Law Forum organized by NYLF. Yes, she had a great time, she met fun and interesting people, she learned a (little) bit about law and justice.
Was it worth the money? ($1,400 dollars for 4 day 1/2 + travel expense + a few dressy items to supplement her wardrobe). From the strict point of view of college admission, all it tells the admission committee is that your parents have a lot of change to spare. Not only will NLYF take anybody who can pay the fee, there is no exam or challenge that would indicate that you have really learned or accomplished anything during those 4 days.
If we had to do it again, she would use the money to spend a month in Italy next summer.</p>
<p>Beware of the NYLFs very heavy marketing pressure: engraved letterhead to inform you that you have been nominated by one of your teachers, thick UPS package with urgent deadlines in bold letters, list of past attendees from your school (all of whom, belonging to financially comfortable families, are probably attending good colleges by now), endorsements by former Supreme Court Justice/Ambassadors/Chief Surgeons/Assistants to the Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff, and tutti quanti.</p>
<p>While I would not call it a scam (after all, I fell for it;-)) I would never recommended it to a friend, and I would urge any nominee to carefully evaluate his/her own situation and other potential experiences before sending them a check.</p>
<p>The test part is why I so highly recommend LeadAmerica. At the end of the 10 days (this was just the CSI one, I'm not sure how the others work but I assume it's something similar) we had to present our theory to a panel and based on that we either received college credit or did not receive college credit. I definitely thought the experience of NYLC was worth the price, but others may not feel the same.</p>
<p>asifkhan- Thanks so much for the advice! I really appreciate it. I really am not getting my EMT certification just for the sake of something to put on my college application, but because I'd really love to volunteer in my town's first aid squad. Also, I do focus on other areas of my education, too, because I totally get what you're saying. And, I assure you, science and medicine truly are my passions!</p>
<p>ÀVosMarques- I appreciate your advice, too. I assure you that I really researched the program a lot before I decided to go. A lot of the reviews were very negative, but then there were a lot of positive first-hand experiences that really outweighed the negative views.</p>
<p>HisGraceFillsMe- That sounds really cool. I'm definitely interested in LeadAmerica, but probably not for this summer.</p>
<p>Another question - I was "invited" to the National Security Forum, but I'd like to go into mdeicine in the future. Any chence that I could possibly 'switch programs' and go into the Medicine Forum?</p>