<p>I've got a few questions about this...</p>
<p>1) How selective is it?
2) What advantages are there to it against the regular program?
3) Does it provide an advantage when applying to good business grad schools?
4) Are the classes harder or are there more requirements for completing your major?</p>
<p>Thanks for any info!</p>
<p>for starters it helps if you use a little thing called the search function or scroll back a couple of pages, this issue has come up before....</p>
<p>Nevetheless I'll try to answer them here:</p>
<p>1.) Selective is it...well I know when I applied to ND, I was accepted EA. I recieved approximately 2 weeks later an envelope inviting me to apply to the Honors Program if I wished to. The application involved writing two essays on topics they provided. I believe Prof Delaney and Hahn, the two who oversee the Honors Program have access to the application files and are able to review parts of your application packet that way. I know that normally they aim to admit 30 students from both the College of Science and the College of Arts and Letters each year. Admission is only open to those who intend to go Arts and Letters or Science, program not available to Architecture, Business or engineers. As I understand it Engineering is starting an honors program of their own, at least that's what some poster on this board claims in an earlier thread. I haven't heard anything about it from the engineers who live around me.</p>
<p>2.) You can answer this yourself if you read the past threads or continue to read down further. </p>
<p>3.) It can't hurt you...why are you already looking ahead to grad school though. You might find your intended major is something you hate, totally change paths and end up in a field you never expected. Honestly I know of very few people who've been the same major all four years and you're already looking to grad schools. </p>
<p>4.) All HP freshman take a two semester Seminar class. It used to slotted as ALHN 195/196. It's not got some stupid 5 number course code (the system changed up here last year, and I think the new one is dumb). One semester of this class will take the place of your First Year Comp requirement, the second semester will count as your Literature requirement. Now you might be asking what if I had credit from the AP English exam coming in? Too bad you've just got some credit you won't be able to use. This seminar is a reading and writing intensive class, with an emphasis on in class discussions. I found it the best two semester class I took while here. The other thing freshman take is a Honors Philo Seminar class....I found mine to be the worst class I ever took up here, mainly because of the Professor. In both instances the 60 Honors students are broken into 4 sections. So your Seminar and Philo will be 15 people classes. You better come to class prepared or you look like an idiot.</p>
<p>The other thing is all Sophomore take a separate Honors Intro to Theo lecture...normally its all 60 students together.</p>
<p>The Seniors all have to complete a Thesis, either a traditional writing piece if A&L; or something totally creative. In the case of College of Science you will be doing a research paper based on reasearch you have conducted in a field that interests you...this Thesis spans the entirety of your senior year.</p>
<p>The main advantage is the Honors Program Electives...That is the fact that the program gets a couple of seats reserved in various classes through different depts, such as Anthro, English, PolSci, History to name a few. These slots are availble for HP students to sign-up for, and you can take the class regardless of whether you have completed the pre-reqs or not. Plus since you sign up through the HP you don't have to worry about getting a seat in the class during the "darting" period.</p>
<p>"Now you might be asking what if I had credit from the AP English exam coming in? Too bad you've just got some credit you won't be able to use."</p>
<p>Just wondering if this applies only to students in the Honors Program?</p>
<p>wow. thanks so much! i was never expecting an answer this long, nemo, i really appreciate it. well i actually did look at previous posts but they were all kinda short and on one of them people were goin a little off topic and i wasn't sure if was credible information so i thought i'd wait and see. would you happen to have a list of the electives you mentioned in the last part? thanks for all ur help!</p>
<p>I know the honor's program has a website. I don't know it off the top of my head, but I am sure you could find it pretty quickly with google.</p>
<p>you mean this one...</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nd.edu/%7Ealhonors/%5B/url%5D">http://www.nd.edu/~alhonors/</a></p>
<p>I cited it in a previous thread, but here it is again for those interested</p>
<p>correct to kiwi_06....if you have a 4 or 5 on the AP English exam you should be able to not have to take First Year Comp...from everything I've heard, its not exactly a class people enjoy taking.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nd.edu/%7Efys/creditbyexam.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.nd.edu/~fys/creditbyexam.html</a></p>
<p>Here's the website to reference the Advanced Credit recieved by examinations, either AP, IB or in rare instances (language only) SAT II's.</p>
<p>in case it isn't clear the previous post has nothing to do with the Honors Program, it is simply a response to the aforementioned question by a previous poster.</p>
<p>The list of elective is something that is revised and changed every semester. If you are interested you can use the below link to see the roster for the "Honors Electives" from the fall 2006 semester:</p>
<p>The real benefit of these electives is it gives the HP students a chance to take the upper level classes specific to various majors. In many cases as you will see if you go to the above page, the classes are what would be called electives within the depts they are offered. That is to say, not everyone would have to take them to graduate, but they are normally only offered to people majoring in their field. Thus, the HP student who is a Theo major for instance could take upper level English elective classes or history classes which one normally isn't allowed to do.</p>
<p>This is perhaps too in-depth, but these available slots are filled within Honors Program on a first-come, first-serve sign-up process.</p>
<p>Alright, that's what I thought. Thanks nemo!</p>