Necessities for Acceptance

Colleges and Universities A-Z Naval Academy - Annapolis
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<p>Another thing concerning getting nominations...You are fortunate to qualify for a Presidential nomination source, since your father is retired military. It does help you. You are also encouraged to continue to apply from Congressional/Senate sources, and it isn't too early to check out your representative's websites for their information on their Congressional nomination processes. Our daughter walked in to our Congressman's office in her freshman year, and introduced herself to the person who did all the Congressional nominations. She told this person to expect her application in her senior year. Then, we learned that in late sophomore year, this person had retired, so my daughter went back and introduced herself to the current person. This person knows us now on a first name basis - as my daughter simply continued to make simple, not overbearing, but occasional casual contact with the office - simply to show her passion and persistance in her desire for a nomination. We have yet to speak directly with our Congressman...so we never felt we were directly influencing his decisions - but it did make us feel a connection to the process.</p>

<p>As far as CA Senators. I could tell you crazy stories about our experiences with their offices. Suffice it to say, they were not one bit helpful or nice to us. However, they receive 1000 requests each for nominations, folks ( this is from them, not us) and for all those who think THEIR states are competitve - I find it hard to believe it is as competitive anywhere else. But we know the plebe of '09 now, who was one of our Senator's principal nominees - so yes, people really do get chosen and it really does help!</p>

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<p>colbybus: I would just like to add in 3 pieces of advice to the great things posted above:
1. make sure to take solid sciences/math courses- up through Calc in math, and chem/physics in science.<br>
2. obtain a copy of Smallwood's "Candidate Guide to the Naval Academy". Consider it a must-read.
3. Make sure you do not put all of your eggs in one basket- have a plan B, C and even D ready if for some reason the USNA does not work out for you.</p>

<p>Best of luck- you are already at an advantage as you are starting early!</p>

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<p>Amen to all Navy2010!</p>

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<p>Does anyone know what the numbers are for Florida Senators?</p>

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<p>
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Does anyone know what the numbers are for Florida Senators?

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Not really sure what you mean by "numbers."
If you mean "how many," Florida, like all other states, has 2.<br>
If you are referring to contact numbers- you can find them on-line (just type in Florida senators)
If you are referring to another number, please let us know so someone can help you out!</p>

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<p><a href="http://www.senate.gov%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.senate.gov&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.house.gov%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.house.gov&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>each senator or house member has his/her own website with specific information regarding academy nominations. usually under "constituent services" or sometimes just "academy nominations"</p>

<p>hope it helps!</p>

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<p>What numbers are you talkin about?! Im from Florida, I might be able to help :)</p>

<p>~GINA</p>

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<p>10 candidates are chosen by each senator, multiply by 2 and there are 20 slots. Each slot is a different candidate. A FL senator WILL NOT pick the same candidate twice. Therefore, odds increase a little. Each MOC (senator/congressman) can pick up to 10 candidates. So, between your 2 senators and congressman, there are 30 "chances" to get nominated, if you are not elgible for any other nomination.</p>

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<p>If your "numbers" question is in the context of my previous post -- Florida has 23 representatives and (of course) 2 senators. Those numbers are only relevant in the aggregate for the state. For you personally, only your district's representative and the two senators are options. Thus the potential to be one of the 30 chances to be nominated that jadler references.</p>

<p>List of Florida's congressional districts and current representatives is at:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.congress.com/state/fl.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.congress.com/state/fl.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>I had a conversation with our Congressman's lady when she called to tell us our daughter's Appointment had already been mailed from USNA. I asked her if every person who wanted a nomination from the office got one. I already knew from asking her previously that there were 10 slots for USNA, and that meant either USMA or USAFA had the double open slot of 20, since one of them had that option this year for our Congressman. So really, 40 names could be submitted to different academies. She told me that actually every person they chose to interview got a nomination somewhere, but not every one got their first choice - which meant some young people received a nomination to a school they may not have even applied to. We come from San Diego County with a high competitive pool of applicants and so we understand the difficulty these busy offices must face in selecting these positions.</p>

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<p>thewill- here are the #s</p>

<p><a href="http://www.usna.edu/Catalog/2005-2006introductionbb.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usna.edu/Catalog/2005-2006introductionbb.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>page #13</p>

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<p>One other thing I would do is look seriously at, and have a good understanding of the Navy ROTC Programs at the other colleges that you are looking at.</p>

<p>My son's BGO made it very clear he wanted to know for sure my son wanted to be a Naval Officer -- not just go to the Naval Academy. He suggested that to demonstrate that my son apply for ROTC Scholarships and to USMMA as well.</p>

<p>It was great advice that ultimately led to having a choice among USNA, USMMA and an NROTC Scholarship.</p>

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<p>Does anyone remember the person who posted in the Class of 2007 thread that was lost?</p>

<p>Im trying to find the person who typed out a whole timline of what his/her daughter did, and like when they did it in their procedure for applying</p>

<p>Anyhelp reaching or remembering this person would be great!!!</p>

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<p>Colby - I was one of them.... another Dad did so, too.</p>

<p>Try again and ask exactly what you want and we'll all try again.</p>

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<p>Well it was basically, he explained the timeline and order of events and things his daughter did. It was very nicely spaced out and I really wanted to follow in the same procedure.</p>

<p>It included dates like month wise on what she did such as, apply for Seminar Feb 1st, then it said about what time she wrote to her MOC and SEnators and such requesting a packet for the application (to stand out and all) and then how she got it blank, and blank blank blank, it was that sorta organization</p>

<p>It was awesome, and I hope he reads it again so he/she can take the time and help me out again.</p>

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<p>C'mon good buddy---the thread was lost... by no fault of ours---you had some great advice -- hope you are there...</p>

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<p>I believe that was Peskemom....not a he, BTW ;)</p>

<p>In any case...</p>

<p>To get the best head start:</p>

<p>Take January Sat I, May AP's and June SAT subject tests as applicable. Definitely plan to take both SAT I and ACT.</p>

<p>Apply NASS early (use PSAT's and list dates for planned SAT/ACT's.</p>

<p>Get ready for both CFA and PRT at NASS, or have someone lined up to submit it for you before the summer is over (any commisioned officer or your HS Phys Ed. teacher).</p>

<p>Get your candidate number (shortly after you send acceptance of NASS selection offer) or call for one shortly after April 1st, if you don't get into NASS.</p>

<p>Getting that candidate number is the key to getting a head start on all the other stuff because you need it to logon to your candidate information page (CIS) and submit most documents online (required).</p>

<p>Submit your part of the online documents (CIS): Personal Data Record, Personal Statement (recommend you get some essay advice/practice from you english teacher before end of junior year, or someone you can use to proof read for you during the summer at the latest. Also fill out Candidate Activities Record to get ready for guidance verification below.</p>

<p>Ask early for Junior year math/science teacher and english teacher recommendations so they are ready to send them online as soon as you submit their email addresses on CIS (April - May) Also have guidance counselor forward GPA, Class Rank, Recommendation and Activities (also by submitting their email address on CIS). Note: these are submitted by your giving email for counselor to: Sign off on verification of your online submitted activities record and Transcript.</p>

<p>Schedule your BGO Interview and request that it be completed by early August.</p>

<p>The earlier you get most of the above done, the sooner you will hear from DoDMERB. (USNA will request that DoDMERB contact you after you have at least 5 online portions of your CIS completed.</p>

<p>If you get all this done during the summer, you will be golden and can work on contacting MOC's in early fall, and work on essays for those nomination applications along with early action applications for your back up plan colleges.</p>

<p>Keep in mind that you should be completing your online NROTC scholarship application also during the spring/summer of your Junior year. They also require recommendations
and all the guidance office documentation and everything should be complete by August for the best chance at your first choice school.</p>

<p>Want more ???? :)</p>

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<p>Awesome Dad2B'2010, thank you soo much</p>

<p>(btw the person who posted on the other forum i was referring to was not Peskemom, because i remember it starting with a d or something, but i know for a fact it wasnt peskemom)</p>

<p>Thank you for all of that information, and I will be planning on getting it all done. </p>

<p>If say for example your PSAT scores are low, does that automatically kick you out of the running for NASS? Does one have to be elite just to get into this summer program?</p>

<p>Any insight on NASS would be greatly appreciated as well!</p>

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<p>Hey ColbyBuss,</p>

<p>Dad2B did a great job recounting what I had posted--seems a lot of us followed the same plan-of-attack. He and I have the same advice, do it during the summer. My daughter had everything done by August--including DODMERB physical. She also sent her MOC packets in in August--but she felt that there was some risk sending them in so early, so she placed calls in the fall to make sure the packets were complete.</p>

<p>The only other thing I offered that my daughter did was make up a matrix of all requirements so she could track them. She did this one afternoon when she had all the info in front of her and then she just put it all together. Helped remind her who she had asked to give a recommendation to whom so she could follow up.</p>

<p>I don't have much insight into acceptance into NASS, except to say that applying early always shows motivation. I wouldn't think that any one thing is disqualifying--so go for it and put your best foot forward.</p>

<p>Please feel free to PM me if there's more I can do--but sounds like you're on your way!</p>

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<p>Another tip:
My son's application would have been complete in early July, just after NASS, except his GC did not properly respond to the online request (email link) to submit Activity record verification and Transcript. So we went about 6 weeks back and forth between BGO and GC and in the end it was my son's direct inquiry with USNA Admissions that got new emails sent out to his GC. It turns out, the GC incorrectly submitted or
otherwise did not actually complete (unknowingly) the things properly first time around (mid-June) and they didn't get in until August 17th.</p>

<p>So...bottom line: Track all the correspondence and encourage teachers and GC to email you when items are sent in. That way you can follow up with USNA in a timely manner (and except for some vacations, summer months are slow for the admissions office) to ensure they actually received the submissions.</p>

<p>A matrix is a really good idea. My son did fine without one, but he had me backing him up also. Scheduling when you will take which exams, which schools, congressman, NROTC, etc will get which reports can also make a real difference and even save you (your parents) some money.</p>

<p>Also, Scan to PDF and/or print to PDF, everything you get and send out. Makes things much easier to track and copy/paste for future correspondence and applications.</p>