Need Blind Admissions-Internationals!

<p>Hey, </p>

<pre><code> So I'm technically an international, but I still study in the United States. My family is neither super rich nor super poor-- roughly 150k a year. I'm the only one going to college in the foreseeable future, so my parents only have to pay for 1 kid. Specifically to Yale though, will it make a difference in terms of admission if I ask for financial aid or not?
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<p>Say for example... I put I don't want financial aid. Will that be a part of the deciding factor in admissions if everything else is stellar, or will that not even matter at all? Maybe I'm not understanding the term "need blind" properly...</p>

<p>Thanks :)</p>

<p>Yes of course. The financial aid consists from a lot of money(thousands of dollars per year, per student). When an admission officer will review your form also they will look if you ask aid. You will have more chances if you will not ask aid.</p>

<p>Most of the international students ask for aid.</p>

<p>Yale is one of the six schools that is need-blind for internationals so it will not factor in your acceptance.</p>

<p>Kdog044, you are right I forgot that.
From wikipedia I found it is need-blind for all applicants</p>

<p>U.S. institutions that are need-blind and full-need for all applicants</p>

<p>There are currently only six U.S. higher learning institutions—four universities and two colleges—which are both need-blind and full-need for all applicants, including international students.[1] These are:
Amherst College[2]
Dartmouth College[3]
Harvard University
MIT
Princeton University[4]
Yale University[5]</p>

<p>Whoa! </p>

<p>First off: have you asked your parents if they can afford Yale without financial aid? Given your family’s income, my guess is that unless your mom and dad have at least 200k socked away for college, they will need you to apply for financial at every college you are applying to.</p>

<p>Second: Yale is “need blind” not “need aware”, so it will not matter in terms of admissions whether you apply for aid or not. See: [Are</a> international students eligible for financial aid? If so, how do I apply? | Yale College Admissions](<a href=“http://admissions.yale.edu/faq/are-international-students-eligible-financial-aid-if-so-how-do-i-apply]Are”>http://admissions.yale.edu/faq/are-international-students-eligible-financial-aid-if-so-how-do-i-apply).</p>

<p>lol just got two different responses…who to believe… </p>

<p>My parents said that they don’t really care about financial aid, because we probably won’t even get that much anyway. </p>

<p>@Kdog044… won’t they be able to see that I asked for aid on the application?</p>

<p>@gibby…haha yes I asked my parents, and they’ve been saving, so it’s all good. So what you’re saying is that I can still ask for aid and it wont matter at all? AWESOME XD I’m guessing this doesn’t apply to other colleges then…</p>

<p>@ IChewWaffles: At Yale, you can ask for aid and it will not matter at all. That’s not true at all colleges!</p>

<p>Our family makes about what your family does and my son is attending Yale for LESS than what it would cost to send him to our state school. Please show your parents this page from Yale’s website: [Financial</a> Aid for Prospective Students In-Depth | Yale College Admissions](<a href=“http://admissions.yale.edu/financial-aid-prospective-students]Financial”>Affordability: The Details | Yale College Undergraduate Admissions)</p>

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<p>You should be doing due diligence when evaluating posts. Take a look at the posts counts and join dates, check posting histories, and finally, go to the primary source (the college website in this case) and check to see which information is correct.</p>

<p>I just had to post a counter to another post that helpchristianity did on another forum. While wanting to be helpful is good, posting correct information is better</p>

<p>@gibby-- WOW THAT IS CRAZY! I have a friend who goes to Princeton…similar position as me in terms of income and family members going to college, and he receives very LOW financial aid. I just assumed the financial aid would be similar at both of these universities of the same caliber. Guess I was wrong… I will make sure to tell me parents! Thank You so much for your response! So does this go for all Need-Blind institutions? I know that Stanford definitely has lower spots for internationals asking for aid :/</p>

<p>@entomom-- will do! Thanks for pointing that out. </p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>“So does this go for all Need-Blind institutions?”</p>

<p>YES, for US residents; NO, for international students. </p>

<p>Only a select few colleges, including HYP, are need blind for both international and US residents. As you are currently living in the US, but do not have residency, I’m not sure how financial aid will work beyond HYP.</p>

<p>@gibby-- Ok I checked on that… apparently I’m still considered international everywhere. I guess my plan is to select aid for Yale and no aid for the other colleges I will apply to. Thank You so much! :smiley: My parents are gonna be so happy :)</p>

<p>Before your parents jump for joy, at least have them look at Yale’s financial aid calculator to plug in their specific numbers and get an estimate on your costs. Your family costs go up rapidly as you approach the $175K mark with only one in college. If your parents have exceptional savings for their income (not a bad thing since that gives you many more options as an international), then your out of pocket costs will exceed someone with more typical savings in the same income bracket.</p>

<p>^ Ok will do! Thank you kind sir :D</p>

<p>Let me correct a possible misconception here – just because a school is need-sensitive does not imply it won’t give fin aid to applicants who require it. Need-sensitivity simply means that financial wherewithal can become an additional consideration in an admission decision, not a necessary requirement. If an applicant, international or otherwise, is sufficiently attractive a need-sensitive school will also consider how much aid to extend to that student. Need (or the lack of it) usually becomes a factor only in the case of students that are “on-the-bubble”–on the border between acceptance or rejection-- at many need-sensitive schools.</p>

<p>All this is meant to encourage international applicants to apply for fin aid if they feel they need even at need-sensitive schools. And, as has already been pointed out, Yale is need-blind even for international applicants.</p>