need-blind

<p>If a college is need blind, is it only blind to the amount of need that you..need (this could have been phrased better) or is it blind to the entire question itself.</p>

<p>Example
Applicant A checks the "no" box for financial aid
Applicant B checks the "yes" box for financial aid</p>

<p>are adcoms privy to this information?</p>

<p>are they blind to the existence of need? or only the amount?</p>

<p>Can you take the truth or do you want the party line?</p>

<p>hahaha.
haha.
ha.</p>

<p>no i really wanna know</p>

<p>i checked the "no" box btw, so I can handle the truth</p>

<p>NO school will take all students who need aid. Even if those students were the top candidates. It just doesn't happen.....too costly. For that very reason the top candidates who need money will raise the stat pool. I have seen many instances of this at two schools where tuition is high and large endowments fund financial aid.</p>

<p>so checking the NO box is definitly an advantage???</p>

<p>No its a disadvantage...now go throw yourself off your yacht into the bay off nantucket.</p>

<p>I was kidding, but it was called for :)</p>

<p>like</p>

<p>(lets assume this is a big endowment school)</p>

<p>There are two kids left, and one spot. Equal stats (middle of the applicant pool...whatever ceteris parabus</p>

<p>1: NO box checked (for financial aid)
2: YES box checked (for financial aid)</p>

<p>Do they pick</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Because he won't cost the college anything, and they can use his tuition to cover financial aid for others?</p></li>
<li><p>"impoverishment factor" he wasn't spoiled, he didn't take SAT prep courses, etc. (these are all assumptions)</p></li>
</ol>

<p>Ironically, I never made my parents pay for any prep or anything, but is it like...assumed that I did because I checked the NO box?</p>

<p>I believe that, at most notable schools, but simply accepting the best applicant pool, they do get enough people who don't qualify/don't apply for financial aid just through the selection process.</p>

<p>No it is not assumed. They will know the school you came out of and make a judgement based on that.......your HS profile. You are making the selection btwn the two candidates to involve two factors: stats and FA. Doubtful that this would occur but the fact is the very poor student will also have an advantage. No need is sometimes equal to Pell Grant/SEOG.</p>

<p>i would just hate them to assume that if you check the NO box, you are some spoiled rich kid who paid someone to fill out their applications while you sat on your nantucket yacht.....................had to pay homage to parikhs's comment</p>

<p>Well take off those nantucket red bermuda shorts and those boat shoes.....try to look like an average kid and don't mention the yacht.</p>

<p>i work 20 hours a week</p>

<p>i paid my own tuition for summer program</p>

<p>but if i check the NO box, they'll still assume im spoiled?</p>

<p>as a side note</p>

<p>i dont own a yacht, or know anybody who does</p>

<p>i dont drive a BMW, but a crappy old subaru, which i fill with gas that i pay for with money i earned</p>

<p>i DONT pop my collar.....this is kind of a joke....</p>

<p>im just a normal kid....who have hardworking parents...who don't believe in spoiling their children</p>

<p>Don't stress so much........you are not gonna be perceived as a wealthy, self indulged rich kid. You will meet many rich kids who aren't self indulged or spoiled and you will meet many non rich kids who are self indulged and spoiled. Money is not the currupting factor in most of these cases......</p>

<p>thats soothing</p>

<p>i think its just that hernandez makes affluence out to be such a disadvantage in an applicant pool, just made me fear that i was being misrepresented.</p>

<p>I was so hoping to go for a cruise on the yacht.........have a nice cruise and discuss the fat envelope you got. We could drink a brassmonkey or talk the tin ear off a brass monkey....which is it?</p>

<p>im international, so no = advantage.</p>

<p>brassmonkey is the name of my 160 foot yacht, which i sail around the worl in, paying people to take my SAT's, and bribing high school teachers to give me a 4.0</p>

<p>....i dont even wish that was true</p>

<p>There are only a very few schools left who are truly need-blind. Do some research. Find out if the schools you are applying to are truly need-blind. (There are some that are need-blind for the first 90% of the class, then they go to a need-sensitive approach to fill it; others are blatant about the fact that they are need-sensitive for everyone; others are need-blind for domestic but need-sensitive -or need-aware- for international applicants). In any case, do your research. </p>

<p>Then, know the following: a school that is truly need-blind TRULY will not take into consideration what a student (and his/her family) is able to contribute to his/her education WHEN MAKING THE ADMISSION DECISION. </p>

<p>Then, also do your research on how that plays out with financial aid. There are only a handful of need-blind schools, but there are even fewer (less than 15) who are both need-blind AND meet full demonstrated need. So, some of the need-blind institutions will admit students and then gap them in the financial aid process, knowing that the needier students would never enroll. They can be need-blind but not have to pay the consequences. Do your research to figure out what the schools you're interested in are like.</p>