<p>and Kenyon. Or, is there a possibility that I should apply to both? since the online application to Kenyon is free?</p>
<p>these are my stats, etc.</p>
<p>White female from Vermont</p>
<p>GPA:3.7 (might raise in senior year)
SAT: 2040 (taking again)
SAT 2: I'm taking US History and Lit
Rank: 22/289</p>
<p>AP's: Language/Composition: 5
Psychology: 4
French: 1 (whoops)
will be taking Biology and Literature</p>
<p>ECs
Softball for 2 years
Rock climbing club
Soccer
Environmentally Conscious and Active club (president)
Key Club
volunteer at boys and girls club</p>
<p>Job at Killington Mountain Resort for 2 winter seasons
Now working at Kmart</p>
<p>Summer Activities
English program at Brown
always reading
writing
hiking/biking/running/swimming</p>
<p>Other factors:
low income family
first generation
Have formed very strong relationships with teachers,and will have favorable rec's
Creative essay topic</p>
<p>I am a very open minded, liberal person. I can get along with anyone, however. I'm really into indie/alternative music. Although I plan to major in Psychology, I'm also very interested in English and love writing.</p>
<p>If you have to ask this question then you should apply to both, especially if one of them’s free. Oberlin’s application doesn’t cost much either, I think it’s $35. </p>
<p>From what I’ve heard Kenyon is kind of rich and preppy. I believe Oberlin guarantees to meet 100% of your financial need and is ranked highly among liberal arts colleges in terms of aid. Don’t know about Kenyon, but I don’t think the aid is quite is good.</p>
<p>If you enjoy swimming and hiking you might want to expand your search outside of Ohio. I visited Oberlin… and it’s pretty flat. I think Carleton has hiking trails and is more outdoorsy. Bard seemed kind of outdoorsy too, with trails and woods and stuff. You might want to check it out.</p>
<p>I think Vinnyli is more concerned about the prestige of the school. Oberlin and Kenyon are great schools for English and writing. I don’t know about Psych.</p>
<p>There are many other good LACs to consider. I don’t know why Meagan’s choice comes down to Oberlin v. Kenyon. Middlebury, for example, seems to be a good fit for its outdoorsy atmosphere and strong writing program (though it’d be a reach).</p>
<p>For excellent “outdoorsy” LACs, my top picks would include Middlebury, Colorado College, and Whitman.</p>
<p>tk21769: would you say that Middlebury, for example, has a comparable contingent of students who match OPs expressed enthusiasm for indie/alternative music as, say, Oberlin?? Do you feel people from a low income family would be equally at home in the company of their fellow students at both schools? Just wondering.</p>
<p>I imagine these are aspects OP will be trying to sort out as he/she moves forward.</p>
<p>middlebury is only 45 minutes from me. I would LOVE to get out of Vermont. Also, I don’t think I quite have the stats to get into middlebury. A lot of the schools I’m applying to are very “outdoorsy” and I didn’t want to limit myself to such schools, therefore I was looking to branch out into other states. If Kenyon is rich and preppy, I surely will not fit in there.</p>
<p>Nope. I said for the OP to apply to both Kenyon and Oberlin, but also consider Carleton. Carleton is an amazing LAC, somewhat similar to Oberlin, that seems to fit the OP well that could be a bit of a reach for her. It has a great English department, and is very outdoorsy. It provides guaranteed meet need for all four years. Plus, the application is free, so that shouldn’t be a deterrent for her.</p>
<p>I don’t want to go anywhere farther than Ohio. Even going as far away as Ohio is a stretch for me. I decided I will only apply to Oberlin. Someone suggested Bard, as well, but wouldn’t that make my list too top-heavy?</p>
<p>Brown
Wesleyan
St. Lawrence
Skidmore
U of Rochester
Conn. College
Oberlin
Syracuse
UVM
Brandeis
Bard?</p>
<p>Bard seems reasonable to me.
There are a couple schools on your list that I don’t know enough about to see how they fit well, but overall it looks to me like you’ve really done your homework.</p>
<p>maybe if you do some more research and thinking- and ideally, visits, but that may not be possible- you can cut out a couple.</p>
<p>Honestly, it just seems like a really great school, and a really fun place to be. I needed another safety besides UVM. my friend who is top 2 in our class visited Syracuse and LOVED it.</p>
<p>"Bard has the highest acceptance rate after Brown and Wesleyan. i don’t know if it’s wise to add another reach to my list. "</p>
<p>I haven’t looked at this year’s stats, in the past Bard has been a slightly easier admit than Oberlin. But if you research it and decide that you would really like to go to college there, and you would be reasonably well within in the pack academically (eg look at 25-75%iles), then why not apply? Is there some limit? Unless your stats are such that admission is highly unlikely, it’s just a matter of a few more essays and risk of possible disappointment. Small price to pay if you think you’ld really like to attend. No?</p>
<p>Of course visits are always valuable, and that would represent a far greater investment of effort, if you didn’t think you’ve a decent chance of getting in. But I don’t know that you wouldn’t have a decent chance, you’d have to look & decide.</p>
<p>If you are eliminating Kenyon because it is “rich and preppy”, you may have to eliminate almost every college you listed. Every school on your list has a presence of these kids, some more than others but they all have them. I think you need to judge for yourself if possible with a visit any of the schools listed.</p>
<p>I only have the 2007 US News , and in that year, Oberlin accepted 34%, SAT mid range of 1270-1460. And Bard accepted 32%, but with a sightly lower SAT mid-range of 1240-1440. I can see why the % would tend lower, Bard is a much smaller school. US News cooked these & other factors together, gave Bard a “selectivity index” of 25, Oberlin 20. Where lower= more selective.</p>
<p>In the other years I was looking, the relationship was similar.</p>
<p>I don’t know what the most recent results have been, but it will fluctuate from year to year anyway.</p>
<p>But if there’s a more pronounced difference now, such that you don’t feel you have a decent chance someplace, as things now stand, so be it.</p>
<p>Yes, Syracuse is different from other school in your list. But there is not reason you should not apply to. You should visit first and make up your mind.</p>
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[quote]
Brown
Wesleyan
St. Lawrence
Skidmore
U of Rochester
Conn. College
Oberlin
Syracuse
UVM
Brandeis
Bard
[quote]
</p>
<p>I think Brown and Wesleyan is your reaches (Well, the whole world knows that. You probable do not me to say that.)</p>
<p>Your matches could be
St. Lawrence
Skidmore
U of Rochester
Conn. College
Oberlin
Brandeis
Bard</p>
<p>How about Sarah Lawrence? It is good in English and writing too. If you like Oberlin and Bard, you will be happy in Sarah Lawrence.</p>