Need help deciding

<p>Hello everyone, the following is my list of college. Please help me decide. I want to be unbiased while choosing my college.</p>

<p>Accepted: </p>

<p>Drexel University - 100% scholarship (Tuition fee) (Global Scholar)
PrattMWP
Chapman University (Delfin Scholar and Hesperian Scholar)
Furman University (Goodwill Scholar)
Wabash College
Washington College
University of Hong Kong</p>

<p>Wait-list:</p>

<p>Pratt Institute
Trinity College
Franklin & Marshall College
Wheaton College</p>

<p>Some information:
Intended major: Graphic Design and CS (though I'm more inclined to Graphic Design). Please mention if you're a current student/alumni.</p>

<p>Status: International Student and aid is essential. However, I'm at first considering the college without keeping that in mind. I'll then cross out the colleges which have not given me enough aid or ask them for more.</p>

<p>Thank you in advance.</p>

<p>If aid is essential and Drexel is offering 100%, I think your choice is a simple one. </p>

<p>without knowing the costs-to-you of each school, we cannot be much help. telling us you’re a Delfin scholar is no help. We need to know the cost of attending after the Delfin or any other merit award.</p>

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<p>Thank you for pointing that out. Here are the details:
Drexel University - 100% scholarship (Only Tuition fee) (Global Scholar)
PrattMWP - $5000
Chapman University (Delfin Scholar and Hesperian Scholar) - $4,500 and $7,500 respectively.
Furman University (Goodwill Scholar) - $44,288
Wabash College - $32,480 (with loan)
Washington College - $17,500</p>

<p>Hope this helps. Let me know if anything else is required. :)</p>

<p>Are the amounts above cost to you, or how much they give you?
To make it easy for us, for each university : (tuition+ R&B) - (grants+scholarships) = ?
What’s your parents’ budget?</p>

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<p>Thank you for your comment.</p>

<p>The cost that I’ve specified are the scholarship that I’ve received.</p>

<p>Updated list - The list contains the cost that I’ve to pay after taking the scholarship/loans into account :</p>

<p>Drexel University: About $20,000/year (I haven’t decided on the housing yet. So the cost might vary a bit)
Chapman University - $66,519/year
Furman University - $11,797/year (I’m not sure if I’ll get this for all the 4 years. But surely for the first year)
Wabash College - $16,500/year (I’m most likely to get this for all the years provided my financial needs are the same.)
Washington College - $35,102/year</p>

<p>Hope this helps.</p>

<p>Thank you in advance. :)</p>

<p>I’d take Drexel, good school and with your scholarship thats not a problem at al.</p>

<p>Your real choices are thus:
Drexel, Furman, Wabash</p>

<ul>
<li>Drexel: + in a great city; co-op; - : not a “residential experience”, parts of the class are always gone due to co-op
can be + or -: more preprofessional</li>
<li>Furman: + personalized attention, nice weather from October to April (muggy/bad in May-Sept), 3-4 hours to beach; -: more isolated, need nice wardrobe
can be + or -: conservative</li>
<li>Wabash: + STRONG alumni ties and support, personalized attention, lots of good careers; -: isolated
can be +/-: men-only, preprofessional</li>
</ul>

<p>I’d pick Drexel because of Philadelphia and the co-op but ymmv.</p>

<p>Thanks a lot MYOS1634. :smiley: I’ll keep these points in mind. I’d like to hear some other people too. :)</p>

<p>Can I have opinions of some other people too? :-/ </p>

<p>Bump.</p>

<p>You’re looking at 3 schools that are more sensible than the others due to Net Cost: Drexel, Furman, and Wabash, as @MYOS1634 said.</p>

<p>Wabash College stands apart from both Drexel and Furman in that it has a very small, all-male population, and it’s not quite as academically selective. So Wabash is more or less self-selecting: are you really interested in attending an all-male school of less than 1000 students for 4 years? If you’re not psyched at that prospect, I don’t see why you’d choose Wabash over Furman, which is less costly, has a similar LAC (Liberal Arts College) philosophy, and several girls walking around. Yes, I realize that I’m over-simplifying Wabash and I’m sure that it has many outstanding attributes, but for that cost difference, it takes some convincing.</p>

<p>Drexel and Furman are very different schools, even though the academic selectivity is similar. Drexel is even more costly than Wabash (for you), but it offers larger research school advantages which might be important to you in CompSci. </p>

<p>Drexel: research uni with over 15K undergrads; probably more diverse than Furman; urban campus and environment; good access (airport); well-established Co-op program; Graphic Design major available; probably more CS courses available than Furman; arguably a more robust job market immediately available than at Furman.</p>

<p>Furman: Liberal Arts College with 2,700 undergrads (large for a LAC); pastoral/suburban campus and environment; more difficult access; good research opportunities for a LAC; much higher endowment per student than Drexel; better 4 year graduation rate than Drexel; CompSci major only; about 8K less expensive than Drexel (for at least year one).</p>

<p>I understand you’re an int’l that likely can’t visit, but the two schools are divergent and your preference must be fairly easy to come to grips with. </p>

<p>One of the biggest issues must be your academic preferences, and whether you see the Graphic Design major at Drexel as a deal-breaker. At Furman, you’ll study CS and maybe take a few courses in graphic design. I’m sure you realize that if you opt for GD, you’ll have a much better understanding of GD, but your employability in other CS disciplines will be more limited. The broader CS curriculum is probably going to give you more career options, and if you could add a one year grad program in GD then you might end up better off in the long run. At Drexel you have the option of both CS and GD, whereas at Furman it will be CS (unless you can do an Individual Study tailored toward GD). So if CS is a possibility for you, then both schools are still in the mix. The fact that you applied to PrattMWP tells me, however, that you have more of an artistic bent and that you might strongly prefer GD. I know you mentioned that preference, but maybe you could tell us whether a CS major is really feasible for you, quantitatively.</p>

<p>Other than that, it comes down to a number of issues. Are you more of a city person or would you rather immerse yourself in nature? (From what I understand, the Furman campus is gorgeous.) How much diversity do you require to feel comfortable? How do you feel about the smaller class sizes and better prof interaction typical at a LAC, and are these factors important in a CS degree? Is the CS curriculum at Furman sufficient for your needs and academic level (i.e. will you require grad courses)? How important to your family is the cost savings at Furman, and how likely is having your scholarship renewed for all 4 years?</p>

<p>You have an interesting choice, @yhd007. Let us know more about your preferences/needs, if you like.</p>

<p>Thanks a lot @Dunboyne. Here are some thing:</p>

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<li><p>My family can afford both Furman and Drexel after the scholarship they’ve offered me so that’s not an issue.</p></li>
<li><p>Wabash is kinda of my list solely because it’s an all male school. I’ve always studies in a co-ed school and I think we would find it difficult to adjust especially because I’ll have other things to worry about like weather, food, personal expense etc.</p></li>
<li><p>You’re right about me being more inclined towards GD. If I had the money, I surely would have gone for PrattMWP with my eyes closed.</p></li>
<li><p>That being said. I have taken CS in my high school and not enjoyed it as much as I enjoy GD. However, I’ve been online course of Harvard CS50 which I really like and think that US colleges will have a similar approach. I know that there is no comparison between Harvard’s program and Furman’s or Drexel.</p></li>
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<p>Now as for the few questions that you asked:</p>

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<li><p>I’ve been raised in a city so I don’t have a problem with that. But I also love nature as I’m an artist. So that’s something I won’t take as a personal preference either than looking for opportunities and I think Drexel gets the upper hand here. And yes, Furman’s campus was listed as one of the most beautiful campus in the US recently.</p></li>
<li><p>I don’t have a problem with diversity. I’m from India and it’s a very diverse country.</p></li>
<li><p>Yes, I do feeling feel that small classes are important for me. But as you can read here : <a href=“Graphic Design Major - #5 by Swimmombs - Drexel University - College Confidential Forums”>Graphic Design Major - #5 by Swimmombs - Drexel University - College Confidential Forums; , Drexel GD classes are of around 40, which is good enough for me. I do realise however that Furman will have much smaller classes.</p></li>
<li><p>Furman has a rigorous academic environment. Being an International student, I’m not able to measure the level of rigorous. To keep my scholarship, I need to maintain a GPA of 3.0 which does worry me. </p></li>
<li><p>For the time being, CS is not a big concern for me. But yeah, I think Drexel has a better name in CS.</p></li>
<li><p>I have received scholarship of equal amounts in both Drexel and Furman. However, I’d have to pay more for Drexel as the cost of attendance is more. Both college need me to maintain a GPA of 2.75 and 3.0 respectively.</p></li>
<li><p>Savings is important if I want to do an MFA later in Art schools which I’m not very sure yet.</p></li>
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<p>So those are the points.</p>

<p>PS: I think Furman has a better weather than Philly.</p>

<p>Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the point about diversity is that Drexel is going to have a more diverse campus than Furman… both socio-economic and racial diversity. Furman’s Common Data Set shows that the student body is 80% Caucasian. Drexel has a more diverse student body (for some reason their Common Data Set isn’t available to give the exact percentage, though).</p>

<p>@intparent As I said I don’t have much problem with the diversity. And it’s pretty much obvious that Drexel is more diverse as it has more number of students. Moreover, I know that Drexel has a small India within it. Hahahaha…</p>

<p>yhd007: in the US, diversity is seen as a GOOD thing, as in, people wouldn’t have a problem with diversity, they’d have a problem with LACK of diversity. Colleges are trying to increase diversity (ie., ethnic origin, religion, culture, socio-economic background, etc…) A school where everyone has European ancestors and comes from the top 5% economically would be criticized for this choice.</p>

<p>How much does it cost for you to attend HKU?</p>

<p>I guess I will be more direct. You might be more comfortable in the more diverse environment of Drexel than the less diverse environment of Furman.</p>

<p>@intparent I appreciate you being direct. Can you please elaborate your point. I’d like to know why.</p>

<p>@ivyleaguefan I declined their offer. I want to go to the US as the money that needs to be paid is less there after the scholarship and HKU’s offer was conditional.</p>