need help finding schools for psych research

I’m interested in majoring in psychology, and I plan on going into a clinical psych graduate program in the future. To get there I need to do a lot of research in undergrad. I’m curious as to what schools have a good psychology research program for undergrads. I’d love to hear about schools in the North East/East Coast!

If it’s of any help, I’m currently in my junior year. My average for freshman and sophomore year combined is a 93.7 UW, I’m taking the max amount of honors classes I can, my school doesn’t offer any AP or IB, I’m in two out of the three advanced classes offered (you can’t join them after freshman year though or else I would be in all three) I have decent ECs (I’m expecting at least two leadership positions) and I’m working on my ACT/SAT. I go to a very rigorous private catholic school in NY. Thank you in advance!

I am a psychology major at a liberal arts college in the Northeast (Amherst). I think a LAC will be your best bet to get extensive research experience as an undergrad - at universities, professors will often have grad students to assist them and don’t need/want to hire many undergrads.

Without standardized test scores, it’s harder to select schools that might be realistic. But definitely look into liberal arts colleges!

Thank you very much! I’ll definitely look into more LACs

You could probably form accurate impressions with respect to research opportunities by reading through the psychology department websites of colleges such as Bates, Wesleyan, Hamilton, Vassar and, if female, Mt. Holyoke, Smith and Barnard, as well as of the aforementioned Amherst. If you would like a college with a Catholic affiliation, look into Holy Cross.

My D recently graduated from Lafayette College as a psych major. She was involved in multiple research projects at school one of which resulted in her being second author in a publication in a peer reviewed journal. She did research during the school year and spent two summers on campus working as well (got free summer housing and was paid). In addition to getting great research experience she developed close relationships with two professors who she did a lot of work with and I’m sure it helped her to get great LORs for grad school. While she did not pursue a PhD in psychology she did get into a top grad program in her chosen field. So I’d be another vote for exploring LACs.

Since you’re planning on an advanced degree, you’ll want to keep your undergrad costs to be as low as possible,
particularly since clinical psych is not a high paying field.
I would suggest that you focus on some SUNY schools to keep costs down.

For grad schools in clinical psych, you do not have to have a ton of research, as long as your undergrad record shows that you’ve taken the requisite course work, which would include Psych, Abnormal Psych and Statistics, etc.
Typically there are a number of LAC’s that have strong psych programs, such as Clark and Grinnell, that would help you with locating research projects, even if it’s not with one of their own professors. I agree that if you’re female, one of the women’s colleges (Bryn Mawr, Mt. Holyoke, Wellesley) would help you meet your grad school goals.

I’ve heard good things about Clark, Tufts and U of Rochester

The remark that clinical psych not being a high paying field is not correct. Private practice makes a lot of money, at least in large metro areas.

Kudos to OP that he/she is aiming for a Ph.D.–the research background will really help your clinical work. You will be much better versed in the current understanding of the field. And you will have the critical thinking skills to apply that information well.

You should be aware that before you can apply for a Master’s/Ph.D program you need to complete two years in a relevant position either an internship or similar. Close friend’s d has just completed her post-doc and has landed her job at a major teaching hospital. Her father is a psychologist in private practice and she she knows the pros vs cons of that option as a career path. Additionally there are not enough placements for those completing masters’s before moving onto the PhD part of their clinical training. She had one friend who was married living in Providence, RI but the only place she matched was in Florida… talk about long distance relationship. There is also a sort of catch22 in that you cannot be licensed until you complete your post-doctoral work but you cannot begin a job/career until licensed and that can be a 6 month or so wait without any income or generous parents.

OP, most good schools are going to have good solid psychology programs/departments. You don’t need to go somewhere that has the most cutting-edge psychological research; you just need to go somewhere they are doing some kind of good-quality research so you can get some practice/exposure and develop relationships with professors. There are tons of them on the East Coast:

-Small liberal arts colleges are a great suggestion. Because they are smaller and don’t have grad students, you can form more intimate relationships with professors and often end up doing assistant work that would normally go to a junior grad student. At the very tippy top liberal arts colleges (places like Amherst, Swarthmore, Williams, Bryn Mawr, Wellesley, Smith, etc.) the professors got their PhDs and research training from the same kinds of places as the researchers at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, etc. The major difference is they wanted to teach and work with undergrads. These professors also teach 2 classes a semester and devote a hefty chunk of their time (~50%) to doing research. So there will be plenty to join in on.

-However, medium-sized to big research universities can also be a fine place to get your undergrad education! It’s true that at universities professors have grad students, but that doesn’t mean they don’t bring on undergrads - they usually do, and often a lot of them. That’s because these professors usually have big research agendas that require many hands! At universities, usually the grad students and postdoctoral fellows mentor the undergrads, so it may take a little more work to get close relationships with the professors themselves - but it can be done.

I have a PhD in psychology and have many friends who do, and we went to all kinds of places for undergrad: public flagships, regional publics, small liberal arts colleges, big prestigious universities, everything in between.

One pro tip/differentiator is, if you can, it’s nice to go to college in a town with a couple hospitals with mental health clinics/wards/whatever. The best clinical applicants not only have research experience but also experience volunteering with psychologists or other mental health professionals. The university doesn’t have to have its own hospital or clinic at all - just having one nearby where you can volunteer is useful.

Good clinical psychology PhD programs are fully funded - your tuition and fees are paid and you receive a modest stipend to cover living expenses. It’s good to keep undergrad costs low in general, but it’s not like medical school where you’ll be borrowing the full cost of attendance (unless you go get a PsyD, which I would not recommend).

Nothing wrong with the SUNYs - there are several at which you can get a great undergrad experience. A close friend of mine from my PhD program got her BA at Stony Brook.

This is NOT true. Clinical psychology is just the opposite - the programs are SO competitive that the best candidates usually have 2+ years of research experience in undergrad (so they started doing research their junior or even sophomore year), and often they have 1-3 years of research experience post-college as well - working as a lab manager or research assistant in a psychology or other social science lab. A clinical psychology hopeful with no research experience will not be competitive for PhD programs in the field.

Well, you don’t have to, but it does make you a lot more competitive and many of the best clinical psych PhD applicants have done so. But it is also possible to go straight into a PhD program in clinical psychology, although it’s less common these days than it used to be.

You might want to look into the psychology departments at the colleges discussed in this article:

http://www.online-psychology-degrees.org/best/top-liberal-arts-colleges/

Many of the listed schools emphasize the importance of research experiences for their students.

It should be noted, however, that the rankings do not pertain to the psychology programs themselves.

@stressed708

Great Schools for Psychology Majors—North East/East Coast

Barnard
Bates
Bucknell
Carnegie Mellon
City U of NY—Brooklyn,
City U of NY—City College,
City U of NY—Hunter College,
City U of NY—Queens College.
Clark
Holy Cross
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Gettysburg
Harvard
Mount Holyoke
NYU
Princeton
Quinnipiac
Simmons
Smith
Stonehill
Temple
Union
U Conecticut
UMass Amherst
UPittsburgh
Vassar
Wesleyan
Yale

Source; Princeton Review

@CrewDad, can you provide a link to that list as I am not aware of any Princeton Review rankings by major?

Am aware that College Niche provides a Psychology major ranking, but not certain its credibility. Would be great to see a ranking based on student/professor peer ratings and on outcomes.

@juillet, here’s a link to Swartthmore’s Post Graduate Plans by Major 2015-2017 - https://www.swarthmore.edu/sites/default/files/assets/documents/career-services/Post%20Grad%20Plans%20by%20Major%202018%20White.pdf

Most aren’t headed directly to graduate school - typical? We have a DD who is a neuroscience major, but assume her path may be more direct as evidenced by Swarthmore’s results - agree?

@Chembiodad

We’ve already been through this. :wink:
Merc has been posting the * The Princeton Review* list of “Great Schools for Mathematics and Statistics Majors” for some time.
Regardless, the lists are included in The Best 382 Colleges.* The Princeton Review*…2018 edition
Page 20. The Best Schools for Psychology Majors.
Perhaps you’ll have to purchase the hard copy.

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@Chembiodad - Yes, it’s pretty common even at the best schools for most majors not to go to grad school straight after college. That doesn’t necessarily mean that your DD’s path will be more direct - but it does mean that it CAN be if that’s what she wants.

I want to add to what Apple23 had to say about research. You might look into a program called Pioneer Academics Research. I’ve heard that it provides students like yourself a way to do the kind of research project you’re looking for.

Many colleges will prepare you well for a PsyD or PhD in psychology.

My husband is a clinical psychologist with a doctorate who did his undergraduate work at Vassar and enjoyed his education there.

Among psychodynamically oriented psychologists, perhaps the premier, best regarded undergraduate education program in psychology is at Clark University. Once upon a time, Clark was where Freud visited and lectured when he came to the United States. Today, Clark is still tops in the field.

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I also want to comment on two other posts above.

  1. Someone spoke against Psy.D’s, but I am not sure why. My husband has a Psy.D. I asked him the difference and he said that more PsyD’s do clinical work with patients and more PhD’s do research/ teach for a living, but that people with both degrees can do both. His interest was always in working with patients as a clinical psychologist.
  2. I also disagree with the comment that clinical psychology is a low paying job. Compared to what??? In the New York area, a clinicial psychologist will typically earn between $80,000 and $250,000 annually. I guess if you are a millionaire, that seems like a low paying job! But from our standpoint, it is a great salary that, combined with my public school teacher’s salary, allows us to live in a four bedroom home in a great school district and send our child to college without needing financial aid. Then again, both of us chose our careers with an eye to helping people through our work, not amassing lots of money.

^Editing. I looked it up online and a typical range is more like $70,000 to $200,000. The average in NYC is around $91,000. I consider that a very satisfactory salary, but I guess others may disagree.