<p>I visited Elon with my daughter a few years ago. We both thought it was a great college and it was a close runner up to the one she eventually chose. Elon's emphasis is on hands-on teaching, service and internships and they have a high rate of study abroads. We thought it was very compareable to Susquehanna University in PA but quite a bit cheaper. Yes, there are frats and sororites but they didn't seem to be overwhelming. My son is looking for a computer major (game design, CS or IT) so I couldn't get him to look at Elon.</p>
<p>Kathiep, Thank you for your insight about Elon. I liked what I read about the teaching, but there were so many complaints that I have read about it being preppy, and frat orientated. I do not feel comfortable with that. I know a lot of people recommend this school. It is also far for me, and internships may be tougher to get because of isolation. I did read up on Towson and it is interesting to me. Actually, of all of the schools people have suggested today, this one caught my attention in the past. I have read your positive comments about your visit. Some others had nice things to say about Towson as well. I have a good chance of getting in here, right? I was also thinking about U of Vermont, but it costs a few thousand more than Towson, and I think for biz Towson is better, what do you think? I even thought about UConn, but it seems too big for me, and is also a few thousand more for oos than Towson I think. UConn has a better business school though. I just do not care for the larger schools overall. Towson is smaller than UConn, but bigger than UVermont.</p>
<p>Coolkid00 - The reason for my post is to say that you seem to be a very responsible, thoughtful, mature young man who is very considerate of others (by, for example, taking the time to respond to every poster). These positive qualities aren't measured by test scores but will carry you very far in whatever college or career field you desire. My only advice would be to seek out some colleges that ask for essays and personal interviews along with the quantitative information because with your careful preparation and thoughtfulness I'm sure you will do well.</p>
<p>Thank you for your advice and compliments lonestardad. I am going to be writing all of the optional essays offered on the applications. I hope that the smaller schools that I hope to get into will read the essays and look at my ecs, and not just my stats. Acutally, I hope that the midsize schools will do the same.</p>
<p>Cool,
My son's friend who got into Towson did not have a high SAT and did not take the most rigorous classes but he did have a good gpa. I do think since it is a state school, Towson is more numbers driven, meaning they will place more emphasis on your SAT's and gpa then your EC's. I think you're going to want to visit to see what you think. If you go through PA on rt. 78 and then head south at Harrisburg you won't hit the yucky Northern Delaware and Baltimore traffic. </p>
<p>Elon, is a distance but when we investigated it, we were suprised by the number of mid atlantic students that attended there. I remember they had a ride board where people could post where they were driving to or where they wanted to go and there were a lot of people heading to NJ and PA. The schools themselves help you find the internships. One thing that we thought was cool was they said that MTV always holds a couple of spots for Elon kids. If I were you, I might consider contacting them for more information, applying if it still appeals and then visiting if you are accepted.</p>
<p>Kathiep, That sounds like a good plan. I think that I could get into Towson. Their sat top 75% is 580 for v and 590 for math. I am above the 75% in math by 150 points, and am exactly in the top 25% in v with a 580. I come from a competitive hs and have a rising gpa. I had called them several months ago and it seems that they take a lot of out of state students (Pa, NY, and NJ). When you call you speak to a student rather than an admissions counselor. I spoke with a guy that lives 25 minutes from me and he is a business major, a soph or junior (I forgot) and very happy.</p>
<p>Elon's social life does not appeal to me, and I am not excited about going that far from home. They do have the academics I want.</p>
<p>I have thought about Elon some more. Do you think this is a reach, match, or safety for me? Again, gpa uw-3.2, sats are 580verbal, and 740 math. I have done volunteer work, 4 years of marching and concert band, am an eagle scout, and other clubs too. I am from New Jersey. Anyone know anything about the surrounding area? I think it is pretty rural. Do you absolutely need a car here? Is there anything to do nearby? Thank you all for your assistance.</p>
<p>Did a fast read of the thread- so it may have already been mentioned- But did you check out Rowan in NJ?? School does have a business major and the campus was pretty nice. Though surrounding area seemed pretty rural (south Jersey farmland before the development takes over), it was close to Philly. We also checked out West Chester (also near Philly) which also has business programs. My d plans to apply to WCU, Towson, Temple (has business school- but may be bigger than you are looking for). We're from NY so she will be applying to a few SUNY campuses. Binghamton is probably the most selective SUNY campus. You may want to check out SUNY Albany or Buffalo as they too have Business programs and may a bit easier to get into. Good luck.</p>
<p>Marny1, Temple is too large for me and housing seems to be a problem. Did they tell you anything about housing for your D? WCU has business, but they do not have accreditation by the association that advances collegiate biz schools. I will check out Albany; Buffalo is a little bit far. I have considered Rowan, which is instate for me, but it is really known for engineering and education. It has virtually no name recognition outside of NJ, but it is a solid school. I think it deserves more name recognition. The people from my hs all apply, and most are admitted to Rutgers. Only a few apply to Rowan (future teachers). We have quite a few that apply to Montclair State too. Again, little name recognition. Even TCNJ has little name recognition, but it is quickly gaining ground on its reputation, and getting it is harder to get in every year. Everyone says Rutgers is so hard to get into, but from instate it really isn't.</p>
<p>Coolkid,
According to the ipeds site the kids in the 75th percentile that were accepted at Elon had SAT scores of 620v, 630m, so I think you are in the ballpark. My daughter was accepted there 2 years ago with a 1200 SAT and @ a 3.5 gpa and got merit aid. She was heavily involved in volunteerig. A friend of hers had a lower SAT, higher gpa, also heavily involved in volunteering and was deferred this year. Who knows?</p>
<p>I didn't really think Elon was that rural. It's not nearly as isolated as many PA colleges. There are quite a few colleges within an hours drive so there are always concerts and things going on. Perhaps it's a matter of perspective. Cities make me slightly nervous.</p>
<p>Ohmadre thank you for the link about Elon. I read it, and it gave me a different picture of the school. I have 2 relatives that live about an hour from the school, so I could call them for a better idea about it. </p>
<p>I am thinking that I would need a car at Elon.</p>
<p>Kathiep, I wanted you to know that my mom recently met someone who has a D who was admitted to Towson. Her family is moving to Md. next week from NJ. Her D was admitted into the nursing program with an sat score of 1150, and she is a solid B student at a public NJ hs. She was admitted as an oos student and they will pay oos tuition for one year. The following year she will qualify as instate. They are not moving to save oos tuition, rather she applied to Towson knowing that her family would be moving to MD. They are doing it because their propery taxes in NJ are much higher, and they were able to buy a home for half the price in MD. The property taxes on their new home are much less. They are investing the profits from their residence in NJ into their own new business in MD. They were working for other people in NJ. The D will commute to Towson since their new home is very close to the school.</p>
<p>Does anyone know how the University of New Hampshire is for business, and what my chances would be to get in from oos (New Jersey)? Are there many people from outside of the New England states that attend?</p>
<p>I'll chime in in favor of Elon. Your stats may be tough for a female, but with a 70/30 F/M ratio, you should get in. Many from the Northeast corridor attend. The recently received AACSB (business) accreditation, quite an honor. Many students have cars, so if you do not, it it not too difficult to get a ride.
Another AACSB school which may fit your criteria is Christopher Newport University, part of the state system in Newport News VA. About 5000 students, best dorms I've seen in 2 college searches!</p>
<p>Mominva, Thank you for your reply. Actually, I am a male :). I researched Christopher Newport after receiving mail from them last year. They seem to have a fair amount of outspoken religious zealots there, and I found that to be unappealing. I do not know if that is factual, I have read it on other message boards. I have no personal experience with the school. As far as the AACSB accredited schools, I know Elon and all of the schools that I am considering are on the list. The AACSB lists their accredited on their website, which is very helpful.</p>
<p>Cool,
Yes, your Eagle Scout gave you away!!<br>
None of the students I know at CNU could be classified as religious zealots. When we visited we were quite impressed with all the students and staff we met. My son was looking at small/medium business schools back in 2003. CNU, Elon, St. Joe's in Philly, Rowan, College of Charleston all made the list.</p>
<p>Carolyn is right on with the Hartwick match. They may look for a little higher gpa than you have, but your total package, sats, and extra-curriculars are good. They have a very solid business management program. I'm curious since this thread started over the summer, did u apply to Hartwick? Have you heard from any of the other schools?</p>
<p>Coolkid, my son goes to CNU. I was going to suggest it, because a) it's a match and b) it works well as a small school (my son's prof's all know him by name). CNU has a "presidential leadership program" with a small stipend and a lot of extra benefits. It seems an Eagle scout would do well with that. Also, they have a business school that just landed a huge grant.</p>
<p>As for the religious "zealot" thing, I think it's an internet micro-myth. I've never heard of it, and I've probably talked to dozens of CNU kids and parents. </p>
<p>CNU is a tough school. Only 13% graduate in 4 years. It's a dry campus and, while this doesn't eliminate booze, it does tend to dampen the weekend social scene. The most common complaint is the lack of weekend social events. My son says he can unwind on weekends, and really has no problem finding some activities.</p>
<p>On the other hand, CNU academics are the real deal. The profs care, and it shows in the students' attitudes. My daughter graduated from JMU last May (another school on your list). Judging from your posts here, I think CNU would be a better pick for you.</p>
<p>I'm concerned that you do not have an in-state (financial) safety school. I'd suggest taking a serious look at other public colleges in NJ beyond TCNJ. It would be an ideal choice for you but admissions there have become really tough in the past few years. If merit aid works out at your out of state schools you'll have some choices to make, but you don't want to be left with being admitted only to places which are perhaps too great a financial strain.</p>