<p>Hey guys, sorry for a question that most of you have answered countless times already, I promise I searched!</p>
<p>I'm currently undeclared right now, not really sure what major I want to pursue. I'm pretty sure I want to go premed, but I don't know whether I want to do it through a traditional biology type major, or go nontrad and be an English Major.</p>
<p>I should pass out of the Writing 1 requirement with AP scores, so that's taken care of, but I have no idea of anything else. I looked at the courselist, but so far the only thing I have sorted out is that I want to take 4 Fiat Lux Seminars.</p>
<p>You can take some LS cores classes. By "LS Core" I mean the chemistry, physics, math, and life science classes that are generally required for medical school admissions and also for the lower division portion of all of the biology majors. (Essentially, the first 2 years or lower division of bio-majors is the same.) If you take CHEM 14 or 20 and LS 1, 2, 3, or 4* fall quarter, you can see if you're interested in pursuing pre-med and/or biology as a major. At the same time, with chemistry 14 or 20, you would be completely a physical sciences GE. (You're supposed to do 2 physical science GEs with one having a lab discussion.) At the same time with LS 1, 2, 3, or 4* you would be able to complete that as a Pre-Med and/or Biology requirement while completely one of the life sciences GEs (there are two - one without the lab/demo section and one just with a regular discussion section - this is similar to the physical sciences GE requirements). </p>
<p>People usually take one Fiat Lux. It's cool that you're interested in as many as four of the topics though! </p>
<p>OK, so lets say you test out of the Writing I Requirement (aka English Composition 3).
Lets say you want to test the waters of Pre-Med/Biology Major.
You're undeclared.
Have you completed the foreign language requirement?
Are you aware of the university requirements? (i.e. GEs and Writing II Classes?)
Which college are you in? CL&S? Engineering? _____ ?</p>
<p>Of course you're not in the college of engineering - they have a rigid set of requirements and well, it wouldn't have made much sense for you to be a potential pre-med asking for course help. I couldn't edit my post so this is good enough for now. </p>
<p>Assuming you're in the College of Letters & Science(s): </p>
<p>Arts & Humanities:
- Literary & Cultural
- Philosophical & Linguistic
- Visual & Performance Arts
Society & Culture:
- Historical
- Social
Scientific Inquiry:
- Life Sci
- Physical Sci </p>
<p>You're supposed to take a course from each sub-category (e.g. Literary & Cultural [...]). I believe you're also supposed to take a third class under the Society & Culture foundation under either Historical or Social sub-categories. For Life Sci and Phys Sci, you're supposed to take two of each with one of the classes of each subcategory being designated as including a lab-demo section. Anyway click [here[/url</a>] for .PDF lists of what classes consist of which requirements. My general advice with the CHEM and LS classes exposing your to pre-med life along with knocking out GEs works. You orientation counselors will NOT suggest you take CHEM and LS together your first quarter at UCLA because it is suggested that the workload is too heavy for incoming freshmen in conjunction with the high-school<-->college transition period and so forth. </p>
<p>*By the way, the LS classes are NOT pre-reqs for the number after. (You can take LS 2 before LS 1 but I think you have to complete a CHEM requirement for LS 2?)
*For the GE classes, you're just going to have to shop around for ones that interest you (offered that quarter on <a href="http://www.registrar.ucla.edu%5B/url%5D">http://www.registrar.ucla.edu</a> --> schedule of classes for Fall 2007) and then on BruinWalk too to get an idea of what they're like... not to be used as a definitive resource...
*My notes about the CHEM 14A and CHEM 20A classes involves another thread of information about the differences in taking the different tracks for CHEM (and also MATH and PHYSICS). If you have questions about the differences, sure shoot ahead but otherwise, I think that's enough for now. </p>
<p>I hope this information isn't overwhelming! I didn't know half of this coming into UCLA and somehow found my way around...</p>
<p>hey, im planning a similar schedule (prospective premed). so how doable are LS1+Chem 14A for the fall quarter for an incoming freshman-- if one is taking 3 classes altogether (plus one GE cluster)?</p>
<p>LS1 with hespenheide is ok. i dont know about chem 14a with lavelle. i heard its okay. personally, i'd recommend professor scerri who teaches chem 14a winter quarter.</p>
<p>Thank you so much! I think I'm starting to get the idea now.</p>
<p>So I'm searching through the GE list and the class list, and I'm finding out that most of the GE's are worth 5 units a piece, making it hard to go for a 13 unit schedule. So far I'm thinking of maybe trying to do:</p>
<p>Life Sci 1 (Premed and GE) [5 units]
S Asian 60 (Lit and Cult GE) [5 units]
Math 3a (Premed) [4 units]
Med 19 (seminar) [1 unit]</p>
<p>This would put me at 15 units, which seems a little bit more than I wanted to take, but I don't know if it's undoable. The other problem is when I go to use the Class Planner, S Asian 60 doesn't appear on my schedule, although it allows me to select it.</p>
<p>13 units is normal for your very first quarter (most people will take more, especially with the additional fiat lux seminar, but 13 is the bare minimum you should be taking according to the ECP guide), but from then on, the average units is around 15 (give or take 1 varying over the quarters) in order to keep up with the ECP minimum unit requirement to not be put on academic probation (their way of making sure students don't stay longer than 4 years to avoid overcrowding). Asura, that schedule is very doable.</p>
<p>MrSpam: The next class in the 30 math series is actually 32a and not 31c. That schedule looks doable as well, but you certainly won't have as much freetime as say Asura would have.</p>
Math 31B or C(depending if my score for Calc BC is high enough)
Chem20H(Lin)
LS1(Hespenheide)
Arts and Architecture 10</p>
<p>Edit: Sorry, I may be hijacking this topic.
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The counselors recommend this load during Winter quarter, but you will be fine as long as your work ethics are above average. Don't get in the habit of being lazy.</p>
<p>Here's how I rate the difficulties:
Math 31B: 7/10
CHem 20AH: 7/10
LS1: 8/10
AA 10: 3/10</p>
<p>I'm having a bit of trouble with the S Asian 60 class, the Discussion section still has not been scheduled, and it's starting to worry me since enrollment started 3 days ago. Is this normal? I really want to take this class.</p>
<p>Hmmm, I thought I had my schedule pretty much set in stone, but now someone has gone and thrown a wrench in the works. :(</p>
<p>I had planned on
Ls1- Hespenheide
Calc 3a- Kuckerenko
Hist 9d- Gelvin
med 19 Seminar</p>
<p>But now I'm hearing that LS1 is actually harder than LS2 and LS3, and that it is better to take the courses out of sequence (LS2, LS3, LS1, LS4). My friend's sister is a '10 student, and she reccomends taking 14a instead of LS1 in the fall as : 1, it is a prereq for LS2 so I can take that in the winter, and 2, apparently Scerri is a horrible teacher.</p>
<p>Please great ones of CC, should I take LS1 with Hespenheide this fall, or 14a with Lavelle?</p>