<p>I want to study business.</p>
<p>I'm in Tepper.
Kenan-Flagler is a 2 year program (apply beginning of Soph year).
Overall they are tied in business.
KF is better overall for what I want to do (IntBusManag/Finance).
Tepper focuses more on the math side, that's usually what jobs they get (don't want it).
KF takes 340 kids. and Tepper is 81 I think, so at Tepper you have more individual learning.
UNC > CMU overall (campus, people, athletics, what they offer, overall experience.)
------Academcailly CMU is a bit more there, but more stressed students.
------They're both ranked very close (4 spots or 5 spots diff).
It would cost a little (like 2K more/year) to go to CMU.</p>
<p>What would you do?</p>
<p>Oh, and I'm Out of state for UNC.</p>
<p>I'd go to Chapel Hill, personally. It's a much better overall college experience, which I think is what it comes down to. I've never met anyone who regretted going to UNC.</p>
<p>I would go with UNC-CH for sure. It's cheaper, and it seems like the overall experience at UNC crushes the one at CMU, while the academics are still on par with CMU. Also, if you're into athletics, UNC has a top 3 team for this upcoming basketball season.</p>
<p>Rankings are not everything</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kenan-flagler.unc.edu/Programs/BSBA/careerServices/placement.cfm%5B/url%5D">http://www.kenan-flagler.unc.edu/Programs/BSBA/careerServices/placement.cfm</a>
Average starting base salary $44,325 </p>
<p>Tepper 2005: </p>
<p>Max: 80k </p>
<p>Min: 40k </p>
<p>Median: 55,000 </p>
<p>Mean: 53,449
<a href="http://www.studentaffairs.cmu.edu/career/employ/salary/ba.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.studentaffairs.cmu.edu/career/employ/salary/ba.pdf</a> </p>
<p>You are wrong in that most of Tepper grads do math stuff to imply it in a technical sense. Finance itself is math stuff and YES SO IS investment banking (it is number crunching). Many kids do trading/consulting as well as marketing.</p>
<p>Plus, I don't know how competitive the business school at UNC is for transferring but if you can guarantee yourself a transfer + you REALLY REALLY love the environment there then go to UNC. </p>
<p>There is a reason CMU is consistently ranked the highest for job placement.</p>
<p>PS: Here is some info for application stats again for UNC.
How many applicants are admitted?
We admit 330 students. </p>
<p>What is the average GPA of admitted applicants? Do I need a minimum GPA to apply?</p>
<p>The average for the fall class in 2004 was 3.469.
Any student in good standing may apply.
Why would I be denied admission?
Admission is selective and competitive. Typical reasons for not admitting students include:</p>
<p>They have not completed prerequisite courses.
They did not complete the application properly.
We have already accepted applicants that are more qualified.</p>
<p>You basically will be working to keep up around a 3.5 COLLEGE GPA or above.</p>
<p>I think Tepper is slightly better than Kenan Flagler, but not by much. However, I think UNC is a more pleasant environment and experience than CMU. Either way, you can't lose. Both are awesome universities and very respected Business programs. Go with whichever one suits your personality best.</p>
<p>go to UNC if you aren't into mathy-businesss</p>
<p>Also, keep in mind that while AcceptedAlready keeps talking about how great Tepper is, recruiters from top companies do not agree. Most of them do not even visit on-campus. Go to the career websites of the most prestigious ibanks/consulting firms. You will notice that UNC is often on their list while CMU is ALWAYS notably missing. Studenst from Tepper get jobs because they are talented... but the school's reputation does not help too much in this regard. While it provides a good education, it doesn't open as many doors as other schools.</p>
<p>The one example where I found on-campus recruiting at CMU for an Ibank wasn't even for ibank positions. It was for tech back office jobs. This was for Lehman Brothers, btw.
<a href="http://www.lehman.com/careers/americas/rec_school.shtml%5B/url%5D">http://www.lehman.com/careers/americas/rec_school.shtml</a></p>
<p>For the overall experience, I think we know which college wins.</p>
<p>Yea I'm sure they don't agree when Newsweek ranks us #1 for hottest jobs and top recruiters constantly visit CMU. You got priority waitlisted, but don't talk about a school you know nothing about.</p>
<p>You are clearly now showing your bitterness and I'm glad you can now go to Northwestern instead of me "helping you get off the waitlist man".</p>
<p>CMU has better job placement but the educations are comparable.</p>
<p>Here's the situation.</p>
<p>UNC's experience blows CMU's away.
Tepper is tied with Kenan-Flagler.
I'm in Tepper, have to apply to KF (but do take 340 kids).
Tepper is more mathematical business, which is not what I want to do.
KF is tied with Tepper, and is ranked top 5 for what I want to do (IntBusMan/Finance).
UNC has 843 organizations recruiting on campus, CMU is probably around same. Note that you can get organization needing 3 jobs.
CMU would be basically be a TAD BIT more expensive than UNC for me.
UNC I'm OOS, so I hear that's really good for recruitment + applying for KF.
I didn't like the stressfulness that I hear from students there, and I know people who don't like it. UNC nothing but positive stuff, more laid back.
Equally good education.
I'd assume CMU is more prestigous, but I don't know by how much.
No idea how easy it is to get an internship at UNC.</p>
<p>Those are my things to think about.</p>
<p>Oh, and the starting salaries are equal in the Northeast, where I hope to get a job and intern. The salaries are basically the same because North Carolina and that area is much cheaper to live.</p>
<p>Dude, go to UNC. My brother goes to KF and had a 3.3, he's also OOS. You are pretty much in as long as you keep your head on straight (you'll need over a 3.2 for a job anyway!), and you are right, UNC will be a better college experience.</p>
<p>id take guaranteed at Tepper over only the possibility for UNC-CH</p>
<p>Can anyone tell me more specifics about job oppurtunities and internship oppurtunities at both schools?</p>
<p>For Tepper:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.studentaffairs.cmu.edu/career/employ/salary/ba.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.studentaffairs.cmu.edu/career/employ/salary/ba.pdf</a></p>
<p>It doesn't sound like a bad list to me. Tepper's small....the list of employers for 2 or more grads is Accenture, CGI-AMS, Deloitte, IBM, JPMorganChase, LehmanBros, MerrillLynch, Pricewaterhouse, P&Gamble. These same places of course recruit out of other CMU schools like engineering, computer science, information systems, not just Tepper.</p>
<p>It can't be denied UNC is a great college experience but in a very different way CMU can also be terrific for the right person, whatever floats your boat, otherwise everybody would go to UNC, Michigan, UCLA etc and that isn't the case. The smaller size of Tepper and CMU in general might be an advantage for you; more diverse student body (vs large percentage of instate North Carolina residents); overall CMU student body I'd put ahead of UNC (1190-1390 vs 1290-1480)....100 point difference from UNC to CMU is same as CMU to Harvard-Yale. I KNOW SAT isn't everything but it may be a consideration at least. Plus CMU's in a great part of a nice underrated city, adjacent to Pitt and their 20000+ students so you can have a fine college experience, people who say otherwise are not students there.</p>
<p>You can't deny the pluses of UNC...overall good weather, watching ACC sports esp basketball, I'm just saying CMU has its advantages too just very different.</p>