<p>Everyone always refers to the NESCAC (New England Small College Athletic Conference) schools as the "Little Ivies". So I was wondering, Which are the corresponding schools? For example, which is the "Harvard of NESCAC"? Obviously this is all opinion and just for fun, but I was curious to see what others thought. Ivy consists of Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, UPenn, Princeton, and Yale. NESCAC consists of 11 schools (Amherst, Bates, Bowdoin, Colby, Colorado College, Hamilton, Middlebury, Trinity, Tufts, Wesleyan, and Williams) but I'm only including the top 9, to make this easier (Sorry Trinity and Colorado College). So below is my table. Give me your thoughts. </p>
<p>Harvard = Williams
Princeton = Amherst (both have the "old boy" network)
Yale = Middlebury (Midd was actually founded by a former Yale President)
University of Pennsylvania = Bowdoin (Great school that everyone always forgets) Columbia = Wesleyan (Most liberal of both conferences)
Dartmouth = Hamilton
Cornell = Bates (Great school nagged by its reputation as one of the easiest to get in within the conference)
Brown = Tufts or Colby (not entirely sure why, just feels right)</p>
<p>Again, no offense intended, Please don't attack me for creating this fun game.</p>
<p>i think those at Connecticut College might be bummed that you did not include them, and those at Colorado College might be confused as to why they were.</p>
<p>remember, 'Little Ivies" include more than the NESCAC so certainly one should include Swarthmore in the mix.</p>
<p>Actually, the little ivies are considered to be Williams, Amherst and Wesleyan. Plus, the whole “Ivy League” and then little Ivies thing came about because of athletics, so it isn’t so much about academic quality as much as overall “feel.” I do not think Colorado even belongs in the mix from either standpoint to be honest. However, I would put Wes with Brown easily. </p>
<p>As for Yale + Midd: Interestingly, I think Middlebury cross admits more with Dartmouth than any other Ivy. I think every one of my Son’s friends at Midd also had applied to Dartmouth. And they also fall across all the possible outcomes: admitted, waitlisted and rejected - and then all having landed at Midd.</p>
<p>Williams, Amherst and Wesleyan are the ‘Little Three’ . . .‘Little Ivies’ are a broader group of small NE privates. . .NESCAC is sometimes referred to as the ‘Little Ivy League.’</p>
<p>That all depends on who you ask. Williams, Amherst, and Wesleyan are known as the “Little Three.” Definitions of “Little Ivies” varies greatly. </p>
<p>I agree with Modadunn…Colorado College doesn’t belong…we are in a class all by ourselves! Go Tigers! The very reason I chose CC over Midd…as far as athletics goes…how many of the NESCAC schools play Division 1 hockey…oh yeah, none…sorry for asking.</p>
<p>Also, I don’t think the NESCAC wanted Division I anything. Isn’t this the reason Union left? Still some awfully good hockey teams at NESCAC through the years. No disrespect to both Colorado College and Union as both are excellent schools, but there is a reason the NESCAC chose D III and it was not the quality of their hockey teams.</p>
<p>Good point Weston. Midd still has 8 national championships in hockey since 1995 - at least 11 if you include the women’s team. Midd does compete with the Division I schools in skiing, but that’s only because they don’t have separate divisions for ski teams. Still, they are always the highest ranked Division III school in skiing and regularly beat Division I schools. They virtually always finish in the top 10.</p>
<p>I love how arcadia sticks to the facts…not a revisionist historian, are we?..N One S did NOT apply to Dartmouth, and I would not compare it to Midd.Much more beer-drenched and preppy! It reminded me more of Bowdoin. The weight of tradition hangs heavy about the campus…</p>
<p>I mean nothing by it–I could have sworn several years ago we were in a conversation about how you were waitlisted at Middlebury and accepted in the summer after you had sent your deposit to Colorado College. But I guess that isn’t the case? Perhaps I have you confused with someone else.</p>
<p>no…definitely not me. EA to CC and accepted at Midd, Hamilton and Colgate…all great schools…I think the year I applied no one got in off that waitlist but could be wrong…2007.</p>
<p>Someone started the same thread on the Bowdoin forum (it was probably you) so I will repost what I just wrote (in my personal opinion from best to worst)</p>
<p>Harvard- Williams
Yale- Amherst
Princeton- Bowdoin
Columbia- Wesleyan (in reality more like Brown, but in the NESCAC analogy more Columbia)
UPenn- Tufts
Dartmouth- Middlebury
Brown- Bates (same starting letter and same amount of letters! lol but also a lot of people apply to them because they are the easier ones in the conference to get into)
Cornell- Hamilton</p>
<p>Not enough ivys for Trinity, Conn and Colby =(</p>
<p>Depends on what metric you use. Bates admit rate is only 3% lower than Hamilton. However, Hamilton’s mid 50% SATs are significantly higher than Bates. Hamilton’s top 10th of class is significantly higher too. 80% vs 63% </p>
<p>Tufts has the same admit rate as Bates, but the mid 50% SATs and the 10th of high school graduating class both are also significantly higher. Tufts 85% vs Bates 63%</p>
<p>Additionally, only 52% of Bates admits submitted SATs. Consequently, the reported SATs are higher than if all admits SATs were reported. Bates reported no ACT scores. Strange.</p>
<p>There’s more to difficulty of admission than admit rate ;)</p>
<p>Fwiw- Love Bates and Hamilton.
Daughter applied to both–accepted both. Matriculated elsewhere.</p>
<p>Well, you have to expect me to defend my alma mater…IN MY DAY, Tufts was easier to get into, and it looks like Hamilton still is.
Bates , as always ahead of the pack in finding creative, intelligent kids that aren’t cookie cutter types, doesn’t require SATs because it isn’t the best measure of college success, and it hasn’t hurt the quality of the student body. Bates is one of the first integrated colleges, as well as one of the first coed colleges in the US-1835, I believe, and more than a century ahead of its peer group colleges.</p>
<p>Ahead of Middlebury (but not by more than a Century). I believe there’s been sex on Midd’s campus since 1883. Correct me if I’m wrong about the date Midd went coed.</p>