<p>You said “Not HYPS”, so, Brown has a good and interesting Neuroscience program. You might want to look into it.</p>
<p>Trying to widen the net- Harvard, Yale, Princeton and Stanford have great Neruoscience programs, but of course highly selective-
Brown is also a consideration for her.</p>
<p>Minnesota [Dept</a> of Neuroscience - Undergraduate Program](<a href=“http://www.neurosci.umn.edu/prog_ug.html]Dept”>http://www.neurosci.umn.edu/prog_ug.html)</p>
<p>Northwestern <a href=“http://www.biosci.northwestern.edu/;[/url]”>http://www.biosci.northwestern.edu/;</a> <a href=“http://www.cogsci.northwestern.edu/[/url]”>http://www.cogsci.northwestern.edu/</a></p>
<p>U Texas-Dallas [Neuroscience</a> BS - School of Behavioral and Brain Sciences | UT Dallas](<a href=“http://bbs.utdallas.edu/neurosci/]Neuroscience”>Department of Neuroscience - School of Behavioral and Brain Sciences | The University of Texas at Dallas)</p>
<p>UCLA [UCLA</a> Neuroscience](<a href=“http://www.neurosci.ucla.edu/]UCLA”>http://www.neurosci.ucla.edu/)</p>
<p>Duke. [Undergraduate</a> Neuroscience | Undergraduate Neuroscience | Duke University](<a href=“http://www.dibs.duke.edu/education/undergraduate-neuroscience]Undergraduate”>http://www.dibs.duke.edu/education/undergraduate-neuroscience)</p>
<p>Oops, just saw the large city part. That would disqualify Duke, but it’s worth a look anyway. Beautiful campus, very exciting research being done there.</p>
<p>USC [USC</a> Neuroscience: Undergraduate Program](<a href=“http://www.usc.edu/programs/neuroscience/undergraduate/]USC”>http://www.usc.edu/programs/neuroscience/undergraduate/)</p>
<p>If you’re paying a visit to Pittsburgh (for Pitt and CMU), also stop by [url=<a href=“http://sites.allegheny.edu/neurosci/]Allegheny[/url”>Neuroscience | Allegheny College]Allegheny[/url</a>]. They have a dedicated neuroscience department in a small liberal arts college. Doesn’t meet your criteria of large urban university, but it would be good to compare/contrast.</p>
<p>thank you all for replies, some of these schools im not aware of yet-and will pass this on to my D- if you have anymore that you know of please reply. Its all so helpful.</p>
<p>If her stats are such that she’s looking at those schools, UT Dallas would probably offer lots of merit aid, if that would be a consideration:
[Neuroscience</a> BS - School of Behavioral and Brain Sciences | UT Dallas](<a href=“http://bbs.utdallas.edu/neurosci/]Neuroscience”>Department of Neuroscience - School of Behavioral and Brain Sciences | The University of Texas at Dallas)</p>
<p>Be warned that it’s a school that generates some strong opinions on this board…</p>
<p>Rice University</p>
<p>for what (little) it is worth…the few neuro Profs that I spoken with say that undergrad major vs. “concentration” is a distinction without a difference since Neuro is typically a grad curriculum (and they know most undergrad colleges, particularly LACs don’t offer a Neuro major). </p>
<p>So the real question is the focus of interest within the broad category. For example, UCLA maybe more comp sci-oriented, while others might be more psych-oriented.</p>
<p>When I visited, there was a lot of talk about neuroscience at Williams [Williams</a> College Neuroscience Program](<a href=“http://www.williams.edu/Neuroscience/]Williams”>http://www.williams.edu/Neuroscience/)</p>
<p>Bluebayou is right. The key to your answer is in understanding your daughter’s focus of interest within the broad area of “neuroscience”. Some schools may have a different focus that may not be aligned with your daughter’s interest. Since you are looking for schools that offer both breath and depth in neuroscience, I would strongly recommend you to consider Johns Hopkins. They offer majors in “Neuroscience” (more sciency focused), “Cognitive Science” (students need to take classes in 5 areas including linguistics, computational approach/computer science, and Philosophy, etc.), and “Behavorial Biology” (more psych/behavorial focused). My daughter is a sophomore there. She started off last year intending to major in Neuoscience. Then, she changed to Cognitive Science in the spring. Shortly after the start of this semester, she changed to Behavorial Biology. The breath of Hopkins’ offering in the field of “neuroscience” definitely allows my daughter to fine-tune and pick a major that best fits her interest. They also have a very strong graduate level Neuroscience Department from the Medical School. As a matter of fact, my daughter is doing research in one of the Neuorscience labs at the medical campus three times a week. The opportunities are truly incredible. </p>
<p>One thing to note here is that Baltimore is not a dump. Like any urban cities, there are nice areas and areas that are not so nice. The Homewood campus (undergraduate campus) is located within a very nice community called Charles Village. The Hopkins campus at Homewood is gorgeous. We have been there multiple times (obviously since our daughter is there). We have also visited many other schools during her high school years. I have to say that the Hopkins campus is one of the (if not the) nicest one that we visited (and that includes a number of the ivies). It is also a short train ride to Washington, D.C, a short bus ride to New York and Philadelphia. Since you are looking for schools located in urban cities, I would strong recommend you and your daughter to consider it.</p>
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<p>I have experience at both places, including having taught at the undergrad level at Penn in their BBB program. Both are excellent. I’d give the slight edge to Pitt’s program in both course instruction and facilitating meaningful undergrad research (and Pitt would be considerably cheaper). </p>
<p>IMO, unless LACs (like Allegheny) are the setting your student wants and will best excel at, I wouldn’t recommend them because of they are typically very limited in the research experience you can get in comparison to places like Brown, Penn, Pitt, Hopkins, UCLA etc. </p>
<p>Neuroscience is a research discipline, so carefully investigate the differences in undergrad research opportunities presented at various places. Take Hopkinsmom’s advice and see if your daughter can get an idea of what she is interested in and then examine the faculty at different schools to see if anything sticks out and see if that helps to narrow things down. Like Hopkins, there are different programs in undergrad neuroscience at Pitt, like its undergrad computation neuroscience program. Various concentrations within the field of neuroscience also exist at other schools with larger neuroscience faculties. However, if the goal is eventually to go to graduate school for a PhD, your research experience is really going to be the most important thing for getting into a top program (although you still need good grades and GREs). Substantial lab experience and an ability to understand, describe and articulate one’s research in an admissions interview (not just that a student did what they were told) is going to go a long way. Authorship to some degree should be a goal. Getting that experience is also going to help make sure your daughter understands what she is getting herself into with a bioscience research track, so if it isn’t for her, she knows that in advance.</p>
<p>The McGill website is really great but parts of it are almost unreadable because of the bland colors used. They fade into the background and are very hard to see. Too many web designers are not considering the needs of anyone but 18-year olds with 20/20 vision.</p>
<p>UVa offers a major in neuroscience. You must apply during your sophomore year, and it is highly selective – only 30 students admitted to the program. It is very reputable, though, and the med school, like UVa itself, is in the top 25. Charlottesville is not urban, but it is a great college town, and the school has TONS of tradition. It also offers an environment where everyone goes to the athletic events, strong Greek system if she’s interested, lots and lots of organizations, etc. so there’s BALANCE (not all work and no play). Good luck!</p>
<p>She is interested in Neuroscience Research, possibly Neruoethics, may want to write or teach, probably pursue a PhD., not sure that she wants to be a Neurologist or practice on the clinic side,but more likely have her own research lab one day. She was able to do a Research program this summer at UCLA in the Brain Research Institute, and loved it.</p>
<p>Authorship to some degree should be a goal. Getting that experience is also going to help make sure your daughter understands what she is getting herself into with a bioscience research track, so if it isn’t for her, she knows that in advance. </p>
<p>This brings up a very interesting point, this summer in the lab she got real taste of what a research lab does at a large institution, the dynamics involved and the depth of the investigative study itself. She was able to attend meetings also with the professors to hear about the study outside of the lab. The study also has been ongoing for a long time and had many facets and labs within the university working on it. The different sides also including about grant writing etc. Was very educational and she loved being among the researchers, even tho she was a high school student. It enabled her to envision herself doing it one day.</p>
<p>She has also mentioned interest in double major with Chemistry.</p>
<p>Does anyone have any comments on Neuroscience at Columbia?</p>
<p>One more, the HYPS.
Anyone care to make comments/comparisona between:
MIT and Yale
Stanford and MIT
Yale and Stanford
Princeton and MIT
Princeton and Yale
Princeton and Stanford</p>
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<p>Pitt has the [#1</a> program](<a href=“http://www.philosophicalgourmet.com/breakdown/breakdown14.asp]#1”>http://www.philosophicalgourmet.com/breakdown/breakdown14.asp) in the nation (really the world) in [History</a> and Philosophy of Science](<a href=“http://www.hps.pitt.edu/]History”>http://www.hps.pitt.edu/). They offer an undergrad major in this field (could easily double that with neuro), but they also offer a certificate program that could be picked up if she doesn’t want to go through the entire major. Pitt is also sufficiently strong in Chemistry. If medical (neuro) ethics are an interest, combined with undergrad neuroscience research, and an urban setting is preferred, I would highly advise looking very closely at Pitt. If she has scores that would get her into a typical Ivy League, she may be a candidate for the Honors College there and quite likely a full tuition merit award as well.</p>