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<p>It seems lately that UNH, UMASS, UVM, UCONN have gotten very competitive. I understand that the University of Rhode Island is probably the easiest to get into. I don’t really know anything about the University of Maine, kind of remote I think. </p>
<p>UNH seems to love to force triple because of housing shortages-we hear about it every year from the media. </p>
<p>Does anyone know anything about the University of Delaware? It has a large OOS population like UVM does. Would that be a good match for the kids we are talking about on this thread?</p>
<p>ReadytoRoll, UConn looks like a match for some B students at our school - chances are excellent if your SATs are over 1200/1600, almost non existent if they are less than 1000/1600. Rutgers is about the same as is U Mass. Delaware is similar, but move the SAT line over 100 points, good chances if your scores are over 1300/1600, fifty/fifty if they are closer to 1200. Penn State, Indiana excellent chances for everyone, even low B students. Not so many data points for U. of NH but it looks like a good match and so does U. of Vermont.</p>
<p>Temple accepted everyone with SAT scores over 1000.</p>
<p>^^^maybe West Virginia University
If interested in coming south…
NC State University (depending on choice of major)
East Carolina University
UNC-Wilmington
University of South Carolina</p>
<p>URI is definitely easier to get into than UConn or UMass-Amherst.</p>
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<p>PSU main campus is NOT a shoo in for B students. When I visited there with my daughter in 2002, they told us the avg accepted student gpa was something like 3.3. According to this [College</a> Navigator - Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus](<a href=“College Navigator - Search Results”>College Navigator - Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus) they accept about 50% of the students that apply. UVM (University of Vermont) is also a hot state U, and not an easy admit.</p>
<p>In Pennsylvania, any of the secondary state schools - Millersville, Kutztown, Bloomsburg, Indiana University of PA, West Chester, Shippensburg, etc - would all be fine for B students. Frankly though, unless your home state has poor colleges, why would anyone want to go out of state and pay so much? No diversity - 90% of the kids will be from that state and the majority of them will be from an area within two hours of the college.</p>
<p>Temple is a different ball game, it’s a good academic school in an urban area. Great for some students.</p>
<p>UD seems to have about the same stats as PSU. It has a lot of oos students because it’s easy to get to from PA, MD and NJ and that’s where most of those kids are coming from.</p>
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<p>I completely agree. the only way I would consider paying for an OOS public U is if it is less expensive than our instate public Us (possible bc our instate public Us are pretty expensive).</p>
<p>According to URI, they triple all freshmen. I confirmed this at a recent college fair. UMASS has gotten extremely competitive. The 2006 USNews and World Report staqted the average GPA was 3.0. Just three years later, in 2009, the average GPA had risen to 3.5. I asked an admission counselor why the steep increase - she told me they have been flooded with applications and have chosen to be more competitive. Another blow for average 3.0 - 3.3 students.</p>
<p>I have my friend’s son’s Naviance in front of me. He goes to a strong CT public high school. It says that the average test score is an 1126 for SAT. The results are little odd. It looks as if everyone who had above a 1250 (except for 1 kid) was accepted. Most of the kids who had above a 3.0 were also accepted with test scores down to 800 on SAT, but there were a bunch of kids that were waitlisted with scores between 900-1050 who had a GPA of around 3.5. This is a very athletic school, so it’s hard to tell how many of the kids are athletes. I tyhink these are unw. GPA’s.</p>
<p>U of Delaware had an ave. Gpa of 3.49 and SAT of 1274. The lowest accepted GPA looks to be about a 3.3 and ythose students all have above a 1200 on the SAT.</p>
<p>UVM did not accept anyone under a 3.2. Everyone over a 1300 was accepted, but they all appear to hyave at least a 3.3. </p>
<p>In CT, UCONN and UVM are both highly respected. U of DEL seems to be gaining in popularity. My son doesn’t want to stay in state which is why we would check out other large state schools. It is also getting more difficult to get into UCONN. Our GC said that a year ago she would have guaranteed my son’s admission (to UCONN) but now she isn’t as sure. She also said that she has full pay kids getting into reaches that she never would have expected.</p>
<p>warriorboy…I didn’t realize you were in CT like I am. </p>
<p>I think the weird disparities you may be seeing on the Naviance graphs are the difference between this year’s applicants and those of previous years. That is what makes Naviance so hard to read now. In previous years, a student with a 3.0 and an 1100 SAT could get in, and now the requirements are higher. Our UConn graph says the GPA average is a 3.45, but everyone over a 1350 was admitted as long as they had over a 3.0. There are two points on our graph of kids with very low averages (2.0 and 2.2) but high SATs (1350 and 1400 out of 1600) and both were rejected.</p>
<p>ReadyTo Roll - I hadn’t thought about the fact that some of the students on Naviance are from when it was easier to get in to UCONN. My son will apply and hopefully get in. Are you looking at any of the other state school?</p>
<p>At Boston Latin, the Naviance scattergrams are showing UMass Amherst as a match in the 2.5-3.0 range and a safety from 3.0 up. But usually there’s a discrepancy of anywhere from .2 to .5 between our GPA numbers and what I see on collegedata.com. So off the cuff, I’d guess that for a student from an average HS with reasonably good (i.e. >1700) SATs, UMass Amherst would be a match in the 3.0-3.4 range, and a safety above that. </p>
<p>UMass Boston is somewhat less selective–probably the Boston Latin ranges I mentioned would apply across the board there–and it has a lot to offer academically, including relatively small class sizes and more faculty contact than I think is typical at large state universities (DISCLAIMER: I work there, in marketing no less). But as a non-residential campus, there’s obviously the issue of finding affordable housing for anybody not from the Boston area, and also the issue of missing the on-campus residential experience for the many students to whom that matters.</p>
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It’s a fact at our school, (well there’s ONE waitlist,) your school may have different facts. And of course past performance doesn’t guarantee future results. :)</p>
<p>warriorboy…no, just UConn. I think there is a big difference between our state flagship and the other in-state schools. What do you think?</p>
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<p>And objects in the mirror are closer than they appear… :-)</p>
<p>I was at UMass-Amherst this spring. According to the Admission Counselor who ran the info session, last year’s average weighted GPA was 3.55 (UMass weights by only counting core academic classes, adding 0.5 for honors and 1.0 for AP). Thats for freshmen in 08-09. She said based on what she’d seen this year she expects this year’s incoming GPA to rise to closer to 3.6. Again, that’s an AVERAGE - kids lower than that are being accepted.</p>
<p>I was also at UConn in April, I don’t remember their exact GPA but I know it was higher than UMass, although not a lot higher. URI is lower. </p>
<p>A lot of kids in our hs use UVM as a safety school - from what I hear, those who end up there are usually very happy. It’s a nice mid-size school in a great college town.</p>
<p>Burlington, VT is rather good for college kids, they can walk all over & Church Street with all its shops & restaurants is a real draw. I remember going to an Accepted Students Day in February there (the wind off Lake Champlain, not for people who hate winter!) My D really liked UVM, but made another choice. There is a housing shortage but apartments seem to be in good supply from what we were told.</p>
<p>DS will be headed to UVM as a freshman this fall. His gpa was about a 3.3, but his SATs were strong. He knew from our first visit that UVM was the place for him! I wasn’t 100%certain, but he was. I pray his instincts are right! He applied early and was deferred into the regular decision pool. He made a point to communicate regularly with his fabulous admission counselor, and I think that worked in his favor (but who really knows?). We will be headed there this weekend for orientation. All of our visits to campus have been great… informative, well planned programs. Quite impressive! Wish us luck!</p>
<p>I believe that St Michaels is also near Burlington. Is this also a possiblity for a B student???</p>