<p>Does anybody know the complete new airline rules?</p>
<p>I know we are only allowed one carry on items now - so that means no laptop bag right?</p>
<p>I also heard people will have to sit still for the last hour of flight without any of their belongings (no books, mp3 players, nothing)</p>
<p>The airline won't tell you what you are flying over anymore. (Any major land marks)</p>
<p>Also the security at the airport is gonna get through... so its gonna get longer.</p>
<p>Also is it true you won't be able to get stuff out of your carryons at ALL during the flight? (like if I have a book I would like to read in my carryon bag, I can't reach for it?)</p>
<p>I already flew over to my parent's house so I already have two carry ons and was going to ship a bag. This sucks. I know they are trying to stop terrorists but I heard he had stuff in his pocket and not in his carry ons anyhoo.</p>
<p>Airports that have them -
* Albuquerque International Sunport Airport
* Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport
* Baltimore/Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport
* Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport
* Denver International Airport
* Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport
* Detroit Metro Airport
* Indianapolis International Airport
* Jacksonville International Airport
* McCarran International Airport
* Los Angeles International Airport
* Miami International Airport
* Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport
* Raleigh-Durham International Airport
* Richmond International Airport
* San Francisco International Airport
* Salt Lake City International Airport
* Tampa International Airport
* Tulsa International Airport</p>
<p>I know its for safety and all (if that's effective anyhow!) but I feel like a prisoner not a paying customer. </p>
<p>Oh, its not that bad. I’m not sure where you’re getting all this info; have you ever been on an airplane? You’ve always had to turn off electrics and such when you’re going up and down, but when the plane is just flying you can listen to music, use laptops, as long as there’s not internet/wireless signals going out. Technically you are only allowed one carryon of a certain size, and a personal belonging like apillow, purse, or computer case. If you keep your carryon under your seat, you can get stuff out whenever you want. And those x ray things are pretty creepy, but not everyone has to go thru them; I’m pretty sure its just random selection or suspicious ppl.
There’s a few rules with the stuff you can bring on the plane - no liquids, gels, or aerosols unless they’re very small and in an unopened container. You can bring food through, but not water unless it’ss in a small sealed bottle. Really though, it’s not that bad, just a bit annoying.</p>
<p>I just read the Wiki on the x-ray machine. Talk about invasion of privacy. I am not sure women would want to give a peep show to the hourly-paid airport employee. </p>
<p>And I don’t know where you found all those new rules. If even half of those are true, they sound a little over paranoid.</p>
<p>Yeah, it doesn’t sound very different from the current rules at all…and I don’t mind airport security being strict, it’s for a good reason. American security failed with the Delta incident (the terrorist screwed up, we didn’t catch him) and it was the British who caught the previous guys…obviously there’s still lunatics out there trying to massacre people. I remember flying on a plane 3 days after the terrorist incident in England years back, and so many passengers were complaining about the new rules…maybe because my family is from NYC and half of us witnessed the terrorist attack, but we take that stuff seriously. Anyway I think you can put a carry-on under your seat and reach for it anytime</p>
<p>I don’t think 10 seconds in front of an X-ray machine is a big deal, although i’m sure some people get offended by it. I think after a while, people will realize stuff like the x-ray is going to become a regular part of flying, like you when you go to the doctor, it’s assumed they’re going to see you naked. It’s not like security is going to lax up anytime soon.</p>
<p>Good point Alix. People have no problem showing their junk to their doctor but heaven forbid they have to go through a backscatter machine (which blacks out your nether regions) in order to make sure nutjobs like this Nigerian don’t blow up a plane.</p>
<p>I don’t mind strict security either. I’ll take an extra 20 minute hassle of standing in a security line over being blown to pieces by a religious fanatic.</p>
<p>edit: The sitting down for the final hour of the flight is apparently up to the discretion of the flight crew (just heard this on CNN). Best thing would be to call your airline a few days before your flight and ask about any new rules.</p>
<p>While I’m not against more security rules per se I have to admit that I don’t like the trend I’ve been seeing over the last couple of years. More and more security everywhere, not just airports to prevent terrorist attacks from happening. It would be more beneficial to start fighting the roots of the terrorist attacks, i.e. preventing someone from wanting to blow a plane up, rather then just preven the attack itself. More security is not going to fight terrorism. I see it more as admitting to say: “damn, we have no idea what else to do.”</p>
<p>Also, I don’t like sacrificing my freedom for a false notion of security.</p>
<p>As a frequent flier, I just want to tell everyone that when they ask you to take your shoes off, you can say no. Their regulation on it states that it’s not mandatory but they try to enforce it. It even says so on their “manuals”, so if your wearing an expensive shoe or sneaker then just keep that in mind.</p>
<p>Better than giving a peep show to the few hundred rescuers that would be tasked with collecting pieces of their bodies if a terrorist succeeded in blowing their jetliner up.</p>
<p>What are you talking about? I mean sure you can refuse to remove your shoes, but then you won’t be able to board your plane. Even the TSA website says its mandatory.</p>
<p>I think the moral to the story is that no matter how hard we try, there is no way we can stop a terrorist attack from happening at some point in the future. I read that the guy went through the rather lax airport security in Nigeria and therefore did not need to go through security again in Amsterdam where security is more uptight. Correct me if the article is wrong. </p>
<p>Maybe we should try some racial profiling since these terrorists are not white, asian, mexican, or black… just sayin.</p>
<p>"Are you sure about that? Everything I’ve heard has said one carry on item only…not a carry on and personal belonging. "</p>
<p>I don’t know about NOW, but prior to the recent event I flew all the time and was allowed one carry on item AND a purse. We have always managed to cram our laptops into our carry on bags, so I haven’t attempted a carry on+laptop bag before, but carry on + purse has always been accepted.</p>
<p>He was black. Racial profiling really isn’t that effective. Behavioral profiling might be better.</p>
<p>The best protections are very good security at all possible points, and anti-terrorism (that is, doing things to prevent the growth of terrorist sentiment).</p>
<p>Yes, I know that you used to be allowed two things. I was referring to the post saying that you can “still” carry two - and everything I’ve heard since the recent event is that you’re only allowed one.</p>
<p>I just checked out his pictures. Turns out he is black, my bad. I only saw the picture on the news which had him in religious clothing that made him look Arab.</p>
<p>“I think after a while, people will realize stuff like the x-ray is going to become a regular part of flying, like you when you go to the doctor, it’s assumed they’re going to see you naked.”</p>
<p>A doctor is different than some bum working the airport security monitors. A doctor is a professional who has trained for many years to become what they are, and is probably much more trustworthy than a random airport employee. Who knows what kind of perverts could land a job watching those monitors?</p>
<p>I would also be concerned that the computers would save the images and put them into some kind of database. I’m sure I’m not alone when I say I sure don’t want a nude picture of myself stored away in a database somewhere. Even if they’re not doing this now, the system is in place that the government could later decide to start saving the images, and airplane passengers would be none the wiser.</p>
<p>I think that racial profiling is a bit harsh, but I will say that this country needs to stop being so politically correct. Political correctness has gone from a good thing that has been a good tool against racism and sexism to something that has been taken WAY too far, to the extent that it is now putting people in danger.</p>