<p>Thanks pianoman12 for adding to the list. I was pleased to see LYNN U on there, does anyone have first hand knowledge of Lynn Conservatory in Boca Raton Fl?</p>
<p>I think a list of qualities should probably be drafted, one of which would be what SJTH is talking about. As for Bienen and Blair, they both specifically call themselves not conservatories, based both on the pamphlets I received from them and how when I had a lesson at NU my dad asked their dean of admissions if they were a conservatory, which led to a rant about how they’re better than conservatories for reasons x, y and z. If a school doesn’t consider themselves to be a conservatory, I don’t think they are one. That’s why every school that does call themselves a conservatory is on the list. I just don’t want to categorize any school as anything they don’t associate themselves with.</p>
<p>Well… My son is at Boyer, and they offer a BM, MM and whatever the music equivalent of a PhD is (oops - I should know that! Probably do, but have a had a few very long days at work…). Temple also offers a Bachelor’s in Music.</p>
<p>Okay, I’m open to the idea. Is the admissions process for the school separate than for the rest of the university (ie applying completely separately and not having to get into the university at large)? I don’t think a BM by itself is enough to say conservatory (look at Northwestern - they have BM degrees but they specifically call themselves not a conservatory). </p>
<p>Basically, from the feedback I’m getting here are some common trends for possible rules for this list.
-Separate or semi-separate admissions from the larger entity if there is one (I think this makes sense because I can’t think of any independent music schools that wouldn’t be conservatories).
-BM (with a heavy music course load, but that one’s not well-defined at this point)
-If a school calls itself a “conservatory,” then at this point we’re just gonna put it on.
-If the school specifically does not want to be associated with that label, it will not be on the list.
-Any more suggestions?</p>
<p><em>Disclaimer</em> “Conservatory” does not necessarily mean “good.” Not to throw any school under the bus, but I think we’d all come to the consensus that Northwestern Bienen has a more well-known program than say, Gettysburg Sunderman. </p>
<p>I hope I’m not beating a dead bush by using NU as an example so much. They’re just the one school I think everyone on here is probably familiar with that isn’t on the list. Let me know if a switch to Vandy or Wisconsin or something else would be in order.</p>
<p>Um… Someone took a huge chunk out of the public university part of the list. CCM and others are no longer there… I guess I’ll put them back on, but no one get mad if I don’t remember them all.</p>
<p>semi-seperate? 
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<p>Just a heads up. From what I know Oberlin is the only conservatory that is attached to a college or university that does not require(for undergrad admissions) the common app along with the music school app. UMich, IU, USC et. al. require the separate app to the University. </p>
<p>By the way, this is a real learning experience for me. I had no idea that anyone could just go into Wikipedia and make changes arbitrarily on a listing. I think I will go into Mozart’s bio and claim that he went to my undergrad alma mater.</p>
<p>I say semi-separate because, well, let’s take Lawrence. To get into the LAC they obviously take academics alone into a large consideration. If you’re applying for the double degree they look half at academics and half at music, accordingly. However, if you’re going for just the BM they look “75% at your audition and 25% at your grades” or something like that… I’m trying to recall it and I think that’s what I was told. Thus, it doesn’t need to be an entirely separate admissions process, but I think an entirely separate one would indeed be a good indicator.</p>
<p>Your rules-your list–your call
Have fun with that!</p>