New USNWR rankings out

<p>I don't have much information as yet because I have not yet seen the actual rankings, but that's what I know for sure.</p>

<p>Michigan improved from #25 to #24, tied with UVa. </p>

<p>Michigan's peer assessment score remained 4.5/5.0, tied at #12 with Duke and Penn, slightly higher than Brown, Dartmouth and Northwestern and slightly lower than Columbia, Cornell and Johns Hopkins. </p>

<p>Michigan's selectivity rank was tied at #22 with Chicago and Cornell, slightly lower than UCLA and slightly higher than UVA.</p>

<p>Ross was again tied with Haas at #3, below Wharton and Sloan.</p>

<p>I do not yet have any information on the Engineering ranking. </p>

<p>Not much has changed since last year's ranking really. The main difference was the University of Chicago, which jumped from #15 last year to #9 this year...a most deserved move if you ask me. It is about time that Chicago gets the respects it deserves. I honestly expect Michigan to make a similar move in the next 2 or 3 years. </p>

<p>Another change, not as dramatic though, was the drop of Penn and Duke to #7 and #8respectively. We are talking about 3 spots from last year, but they are at least ranked below Stanford and MIT as it should be. </p>

<p>Finally, Caltech was ranked #4, which I hink is a little high considering Caltech s a very limited institution.</p>

<p>Wait a minute, how did u get these rankings?</p>

<p>I don't think you can penalize Caltech for being "limited" since it <i>is</i> a tech school. People who go there know what they're getting into.</p>

<p>I agree with Alexandre about Caltech. It's a stellar school for science and engineering, but that's about the extent of their influence. I know that Caltech is often compared to MIT, but the latter excels in other fields such as Business and Economics. But I'm glad to hear Michigan advanced a spot. Go Blue!</p>

<p>How did you get them so early? When will they be available to the masses?</p>

<p>thanks alexandre! 25 to 24 isn't bad at all. i'm happy :]</p>

<p>but i'm surprised how upenn went down to 7. did columbia go down too since chicago went up?</p>

<p>i guess i'll have to withdraw my transfer application then</p>

<p>Given that some folks (alums, prospective students) would absolutely FREAK OUT if we dropped from the top 25, one has to be happy the movement was up, not down. Truly, movement of a few places in either direction is meaningless . . . but given some people's focus on these dumb rankings, one has to give thanks we went in the "right" direction.</p>

<p>at this pace, only 23 years till we are #1.woohoo!!!</p>

<p>just wondering . . . what's the highest Mich has ever been in the USNWR rankings?</p>

<p>In the 1980s, the USNWR published rankings 4 times and Michigan was always ranked between #7 and #9. So the highest Michigan has been ranked by the USNWR was #7.</p>

<p>why do you think it fell so far in the last 15-25 years?</p>

<p>Change in the ranking methods.</p>

<p>Awesome, great news indeed. I have a subscription there so Im going to check it out right away :D</p>

<p>Caltech's focus as a school has never been a negative factor used against it in the UNSWR rankings. It was #1 several years ago I think.</p>

<p>To expand on what Hauck said, the used to use ONLY reputation for ranking. That's when U-M was in the top 8.</p>

<p>If you look at the "reputation" column in the rankings these days, U-M would still rank about the same place as it did in the 1980s. The Univetsity hasn't "fallen" in quality--it just doesn't fare as well under other a different methodology.</p>

<p>Unfortunately, some people don't know this and have have tried to suggest policy changes on the basis of the University 'declining.'</p>

<ol>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>CalTech
MIT
Stanford</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Columbia
Dartmouth
Chicago</li>
<li>Cornell
WUSTL</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins</li>
<li>Rice</li>
<li>Emory
Vanderbilt</li>
<li>Notre Dame</li>
<li>Carneie Mellon
Berkeley</li>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>Michigan
Virginia</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>Tufts
UNC Chapel Hill
USC</li>
</ol>

<p>what? umich ranks higher than uva and ucla? i find that hard to believe!</p>

<p>Michigan is tied with UVa...</p>

<p>its not a tie necessarily; they use that to be "nice" but technically, if there is a school below it, that school would be #25, so technically, UVA is #25 according to your rankings.</p>