<p>Many of you have probably received the email (except possibly new first years/transfers) about the new email establishment through Microsoft and Gmail. It seems weird and purposeless, but if there is a motive behind all of this, then it was probably a smart move. However, I dont want to give up my <a href="mailto:@virginia.edu">@virginia.edu</a> address for my main mail because I want to keep school mail professional (actually, I just dont want to have to go and change everything and alert my parents and wait the two months of them asking me what my email is and having other people I dont interact with regularly not know plus, @virginia.edu is baller). But if I can keep @virginia.edu AND keep the address post-school, well, Im game. Its all just a little overwhelming, with UVA trying to morph itself technological side. Its trying to make the leap from caveman to astronaut overnight, and they havent even begun to introduce the new ISIS. But, Collab is nice so Ill give them the benefit of the doubt. Further explanation of whats going on with the mail would be nice though </p>
<p>Well the old UVA-run Central Mail Service (CMS... you always wondered what <a href="mailto:mst3k@cms.mail.virginia.edu">mst3k@cms.mail.virginia.edu</a> was about) is horrible and buggy so they're moving over to someone else's email handling.</p>
<p>Good news: <a href="mailto:mst3k@virginia.edu">mst3k@virginia.edu</a> and any other <a href="mailto:alias@virginia.edu">alias@virginia.edu</a> work, and <a href="mailto:mst3k@virginia.edu">mst3k@virginia.edu</a> is now for life with Google/Microsoft. More good news: any new <a href="mailto:alias@email.virginia.edu">alias@email.virginia.edu</a> is also for life. <a href="mailto:oldalias@virginia.edu">oldalias@virginia.edu</a> expires when you graduate though. :</p>
<p>Some annoying news: I moved my account to GMail today and now <a href="mailto:mst3k@cms.mail.virginia.edu">mst3k@cms.mail.virginia.edu</a> doesn't forward to <a href="mailto:mst3k@virginia.edu">mst3k@virginia.edu</a><a href="to%20google">/email</a> OR bounce so people sending me email think I've received it and I have no idea they've sent me anything. ARGH ITC.</p>
<p>So you're not losing your @virginia.edu address, in fact now you get to keep it for life. It's all good. :)</p>
<p>What's the difference between <a href="mailto:alias@virginia.edu">alias@virginia.edu</a> and <a href="mailto:oldalias@virginia.edu">oldalias@virginia.edu</a>? Can I assume that incoming first-years will have the new alias and not oldalias?</p>
<p>New aliases can only be <a href="mailto:you@email.virginia.edu">you@email.virginia.edu</a> in the past you could do <a href="mailto:you@virginia.edu">you@virginia.edu</a> but now you can't do that anymore.</p>
<p>This was my conversation with ITC
Me: <em>explains problem</em>
Guy: ...You know, that's just impossible.
Me: <em>resists shouting that it's obviously NOT impossible since it's happening</em>
<em>some email sending experimenting ensues</em>
Guy: ...Well, let me record that this is happening, because it could turn out to be a big problem if it happens to other people.</p>
<p>...lol</p>
<p>Ohhhh. So with the new system you still have your <a href="mailto:bug9r@virginia.edu">bug9r@virginia.edu</a><a href="I%20hope%20no%20one%20has%20that%20email%20or%20they're%20about%20to%20get%20spam...and%20their%20initials%20are%20bug%20hah">/email</a> but if you change it to say <a href="mailto:ladiesman@virginia.edu">ladiesman@virginia.edu</a><a href="hah%20again">/email</a> it's <a href="mailto:ladiesman@email.virginia.edu">ladiesman@email.virginia.edu</a> now.</p>
<p>well sweet, I happened to like my ID, it's got kind of a twist. Not really, I just like it for some reason.</p>
<p>I think Gmail may win over people, as most people have a gmail account these days. I have one strictly to forward my mail to my iPhone (I download my email to my computer with Outlook) from my virginia mail. Then again, I use Outlook. Ugh.</p>
<p>I am actually one of those people who don't really like Gmail and I am so used to CMS that I don't feel like making this transition (believe it or not). But do I have to? Can I just keep doing the same thing I have been doing since I have been at UVa? The instructions didn't make it clear if the move is mandatory or not.</p>
<p>My guess is that its mandatory, or will be at some point. Maybe try out the microsoft deal. Although Im not really sure the difference other than you use gmails interface or microsoft exchange. This is why I just use Outlook. You could use Thunderbird as well, its easy to use and all over UVA computers. Then at least you'd have continuity even though its something new.</p>
<p>I don't understand any of it. Do they automatically transfer the mail we have saved in folders on cms to our new account at the end of the summer?</p>
<p>Yeah (they transfer everything) that's why you have to "queue your account for migration." At the end of the summer CMS will not exist any more so you have to choose one of the new providers, sorry. I agree I am very used to CMS and google's lack of folders is alarming. I don't know how they're going to transfer over our folders if there aren't even folders...</p>
<p>They get reorganised as labels, I think.</p>
<p>Folders belong in a hierarchy whereas you can have conversations with overlapping labels assigned to them, and run scripts that organises emails according to labels. If you set up filtering to "archive and label" you largely accomplish the same function as folders.</p>
<p>Also, does your UVA email discriminate between external and internal mail? I'm experimenting with several forwarding routes, and they only appear to work if I send the test messages internally.</p>
<p>Yeah all of my server side rules got erased when I made my Google account, that was annoying, but I have already set up the auto filtering and labeling for some of my more active folders (cs101 help list for example, lol). We will see how they work. I like the idea of being able to multi-tag and I like the threading so I'm sure I'll get used to it. I just hope UVA migrates my folders correctly (labels all of the messages how they were in the folders for example)... Because it would be SO like UVA to not do that and just shove them all together unorganized.</p>
<p>As for internal and external... I dunno what you are trying to do so I'm not sure if I've experienced the same thing or not. I know before you used to be able to send mail to mst3k (without any @virginia.edu) as long as they belonged to cms (for instance, students, but not health services people) and it was the ID and not an alias. But now with Google I doubt you'll be able to do that anymore.</p>
<p>Well, I'm trying to set up forwarding all to one account (my dominant, pre-existing, gmail account). Test messages show up in my regular gmail account if I say, send a message to myself from the UVA gmail, or from CMS, but not if I send a test message to myself from my regular gmail, either through the primary address or my alias.</p>
<p>I think maybe it's a Google (integrating with UVA) thing then!! Try sending yourself an email through Yahoo or Hotmail or something else non-yourself-Google and maybe that will work? The tech guy was able to send me emails (and he says he uses GMail) but I wasn't able to send them to myself. It was really weird and obnoxious. They should fix this.</p>
<p>coulda used good old mst3k as your example.</p>
<p>btw quoting on these forums is terribad. can I get a button on each post please, kthanks.</p>
<p>How do I log on to my email account?</p>
<p>this is off of UVa's ITC website:</p>
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Where do I go to access my new email account?</p>
<pre><code>The simple answer is go to www.mail.virginia.edu. If you have just one account, you'll be taken straight to it. If you have more than one, you'll be presented with a switchboard so you can choose which account to log into.
Alternatively, if you have a Virginia Google email account, you can also go to directly to www.mail.virginia.edu/google. Note that going straight to google.com or gmail.com will not work.
And if you have a Virginia Microsoft Live@edu account, you can go directly to www.mail.virginia.edu/microsoft. (Or, you can also go straight to Sign In. You must supply your UVa login password when going to this site.)
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<p>Student</a> Email Migration - Frequently-Asked Questions</p>
<p>and wazhoom, to quote, just type [ quote] before the text you would like to quote and [ /quote] after. Just make sure there is no space inside the brackets. It's not too bad at all and keeps CC a little more simple IMO.</p>
<p>hmmm can we keep the 2 aliases we can create for life as well??</p>
<p>the ones @email.virginia.edu - yes</p>
<p>When I go to <a href="http://www.mail.virginia.edu/google%5B/url%5D">www.mail.virginia.edu/google</a>, I get "You must login...If you enable Javascript in your browser, you will no longer have to do this." Then I am redirected to a page that says "Logging in" with a button that says "Send query". It redirects back and forth between the same two pages. How do I log in to my GMail account? How do I enable Javascript in an AOL browser?</p>