<p>Brown - 13
Columbia 21
Cornell - 7</p>
<p>Dartmouth - 16
Duke - 9
Rice - 1
Northwestern - 8
Penn - 9
Tufts - 1 (located right in Boston)
Chicago - 8
U Mich Ann Arbor - 8
NYU - 5
Wash U - 4</p>
<p>Wow for Dartmouth which has a student body that is miniscule compared to many of those schools.</p>
<p>JHU - I assume that there are zero from that school.</p>
<p>Some more:</p>
<p>Georgetown: 6</p>
<p>Emory: 5</p>
<p>I think that UChicago and Northwestern performed very well considering that they are midwestern schools. They performed better than practically most east-coast elites minus some ivies.</p>
<p>one needs to consider change from last year--this represents I believe all 3 year law classes.</p>
<p>Penn I believe only had 3 at yale law last year. Now, it has 9. That means that a bunch of Penn students enrolled as freshmen.</p>
<p>Duke dropped from I believe 15 to 9.</p>
<p>Columbia- It's all in the LSAT score and GPA too. It's not going to make much of a difference if your UG degree is from UPenn/Northwestern/Cornell or even SUNY Bing- For HYS Law School ya gotta shoot for a 173 or better LSAT and that is probably a lowball figure as even with a 173, it's far from a sure thing!!
I wouldn't be too concerned with these type of statistics- spend your time preparing for the LSAT's.</p>
<p>holy crap, Harvard had 79!</p>
<p>As I'm a nerd, I have the numbers for last year, Excel, and the capability of determining the percentage of students from each undergrad at YLS. Realize that factors can skew data, such as tech schools will typically not have as many students interested in law at all. Particularly though, one would expect nearly all liberal arts colleges to have students with an interest in professional or graduate schools - some more than others. Some LACs have a poor showing in this table, making me wonder whether it's the case that students there just have little to no interest in YLS or are incapable of getting in, perhaps due to grade deflation, etc. Below are the top 50 unis and top 20 or so LACs, ranked by percentage at YLS. If you have any recommendations for change and can reference the information that you wish to change (such as graduating class size), let me know. It's easy to change numbers. The class sizes here are determined by using College Board's data for the total undergrad population and dividing by four, assuming normal progression for the majority of students at top universities, as would be expected.</p>
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<p>**School** : **04-05** : **05-06** : **Average** : **Class Size** : **Percentage**</p>
<ol>
<li> Yale - 113 - 78 - 95.5 - 1315 - 7.26%</li>
<li> Harvard - 89 - 79 - 84 - 1686 - 4.98%</li>
<li> Princeton - 34 - 31 - 32.5 - 1200 - 2.70%</li>
<li> Stanford - 42 - 37 - 39.5 - 1646 - 2.40%</li>
<li> Williams - 12 - 12 - 12 - 534 - 2.25%</li>
<li> Amherst - 9 - 9 - 9 - 433 - 2.08%</li>
<li> Columbia - 18 - 21 - 19.5 - 1022 - 1.91%</li>
<li> Swarthmore - 6 - 5 - 5.5 - 370 - 1.49%</li>
<li> Dartmouth - 13 - 16 - 14.5 - 1086 - 1.34%</li>
<li> Brown - 17 - 13 - 15 - 1466 - 1.02%</li>
<li> Wesleyan - 7 - 7 - 7 - 720 - 0.97%</li>
<li> Claremont Mckenna - 2 - 2 - 2 - 294 - 0.68%</li>
<li> Pomona - 2 - 3 - 2.5 - 379 - 0.66%</li>
<li> Duke - 13 - 9 - 11 - 1683 - 0.65%</li>
<li> Chicago - 7 - 8 - 7.5 - 1259 - 0.60%</li>
<li> Barnard - 3 - 2 - 3.5 - 556 - 0.45%</li>
<li> Middlebury - 2 - 3 - 2.5 - 563 - 0.44%</li>
<li> Georgetown - 7 - 6 - 6.5 - 1606 - 0.40%</li>
<li> Brandeis - 4 - 2 - 3 - 765 - 0.39%</li>
<li> Berkeley - 16 - 16 - 16 - 4167 - 0.39%</li>
<li> Northwestern - 7 - 8 - 7.5 - 2062 - 0.36%</li>
<li> MIT - 2 - 5 - 3.5 - 1002 - 0.35%</li>
<li> Notre Dame - 7 - 7 - 7 - 2039 - 0.34%</li>
<li> Wellesley - 1 - 3 - 2 - 586 - 0.34%</li>
<li> Washington & Lee - 1 - 2 - 2.5 - 450 - 0.33%</li>
<li> Haverford - 1 - 1 - 1 - 314 - 0.32%</li>
<li> Penn - 6 - 9 - 7.5 - 2373 - 0.32%</li>
<li> Oberlin - 2 - 2 - 2 - 718 - 0.28%</li>
<li> Emory - 4 - 5 - 4.5 - 1465 - 0.27%</li>
<li> Yeshiva - 2 - 2 - 2 - 750 - 0.27%</li>
<li> Virginia - 10 - 10 - 10 - 3905 - 0.26%</li>
<li> Grinnell - 1 - 1 - 1 - 405 - 0.25%</li>
<li> WUSTL - 3 - 4 - 3.5 - 1470 - 0.24%</li>
<li> Tulane - 2 - 3 - 2.5 - 1115 - 0.24%</li>
<li> Bowdoin - 1 - 1 - 1 - 474 - 0.21%</li>
<li> Rice - 2 - 1 - 1.5 - 713 - 0.21%</li>
<li> Cornell - 6 - 7 - 6.5 - 3188 - 0.20%</li>
<li> Colgate - 1 - 2 - 1.5 - 744 - 0.20%</li>
<li> Vanderbilt - 3 - 3 - 3- 1590 - 0.19%</li>
<li> UCLA - 7 - 8 - 7.5 - 4811 - 0.16%</li>
<li> W&M - 3 - 1 - 2 - 1349 - 0.15%</li>
<li> USC - 5 - 3 - 4 - 2763 - 0.14%</li>
<li> UNC - 5 - 6 - 5.5 - 3807 - 0.14%</li>
<li> Michigan - 5 - 8 - 6.5 - 5060 - 0.14%</li>
<li> Carleton - 1 - 0 - 0.5 - 504 - 0.10%</li>
<li> UT - 5 - 8 - 6.5 - 7417 - 0.09%</li>
<li> BC - 1 - 3 - 2 - 2284 - 0.09%</li>
<li> NYU - 3 - 5 - 4 - 4740 - 0.08%</li>
<li> JHU - 2 - 0 - 1 - 1207 - 0.08%</li>
<li> Washington St. - 5 - 4 - 4.5 - 5475 - 0.08%</li>
<li> Tufts - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1281 - 0.08%</li>
<li> Vassar - 1 - 0 - 0.5 - 668 - 0.07%</li>
<li> Wisconsin - 5 - 3 - 4 - 5643 - 0.07%</li>
<li> UCSD - 2 - 3 - 2.5 - 4589 - 0.05%</li>
<li> Wake - 0 - 1 - 0.5 - 1122 - 0.04%</li>
<li> Lehigh - 1 - 0 - 0.5 - 1217 - 0.04%</li>
<li> UCI - 2 - 1 - 1.5 - 4839 - 0.03%</li>
<li> UIUC - 2 - 1 - 1.5 - 7172 - 0.02%</li>
<li> Penn St. - 0 - 1 - 0.5 - 8039 - 0.01%</li>
</ol>
<p>The following schools have not sent any students to YLS for the past two years:</p>
<p>Caltech, Smith, Case Western, Carnegie Mellon, Davidson, Bryn Mawr, Reed, Hamilton, Rochester, RPI, Georgia Tech, Colby, Macalester</p>
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<p>This is really interesting to look at, IMO. In any given year, for instance, one could estimate that approximately 5% of the students at Harvard will graduate and go onto Yale Law School - arguably the best law school in the nation. That's really a massive percentage of students going onto the best law school, which really makes you wonder where the "losers" end up - Penn, NYU, Michigan, perhaps? All amazing law schools as well.</p>
<p>wow, i feel like such a dork right now, but really cool coding!</p>
<p>Of course this doesn't exactly show who could get in. As mentioned, there is inclination - tech schools probably won't have a lot of applicants, and some schools just tend to be more professional-minded. Location also matters - for example, there are probably a lot more Stanford or Pomona UGs than Yale or Williams UGs who would choose Stanford Law over Yale Law. I am sure there are a few Harvard UGs who stayed at the alma mater just because of loyalty, as well.</p>
<p>Exactly. In the end, the name of the game is GPA and LSAT. Undergrad can matter and have an impact on your application, but it will never be a deciding factor. One should account for things as you have mentioned. That is why I do not think it strange to see no one at YLS in the past two years from Caltech, Case, Carnegie, etc. I do find it strange, though, that absent are Davidson, Colby, Macalester - and that Tufts and Vassar, for example, appear lower on the list than I'd expect. There may be a logical explanation for this, or it could just be that students from these schools aren't having as much luck. I would expect most graduates of LACs to be headed to a professional or graduate program, and law seems to be as common as med and business.</p>
<p>Yale is such a small school, and has a bit of a specialty appeal to legal academics/future law professors, that if you really want to use a single school to measure law school placement, you'd be better off using Harvard--3 times the size of Yale, and a much broader appeal to future law professors, law firm partners, public sector attorneys, etc. Even though Yale's typically rated #1 by US News, Harvard is much more representative as a top law school.</p>
<p>Of course, to get a much more accurate picture of law school placement, you'd be even better off looking at the top 10 or top 14 schools.</p>
<p>But by virtue of its size, the numbers at Yale are just too small to show much beyond the top 3 or 4 feeders (and we all know who they are, anyway :)).</p>
<p>I have the 2004-05 numbers for Harvard as well, but not 05-06. I understand your point, but when it comes to desirability (as determined by yield/admission rate/incoming stats - all of which are better at Yale) and the fact that Yale has practically always been considered the undisputed top law school, these numbers have merit. I'm willing to bet that most people accepted to YLS also applied to HLS and turned it down. </p>
<p>In fact, though, YLS and HLS are the only T6 law schools I know of that publicly release this data yearly. I had created a table like the one above that took into account students enrolled at both schools, but as I've said, I can't do it again yet as I don't have HLS' new numbers.</p>
<p>Brand I think your Columbia numbers are slightly off. You probably should include SEAS, since all the other schools include engineers.</p>
<p>Yield at HLS is 67% and yield at YLS is 76%:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.law.harvard.edu/admissions/jd/apply/classprofile/%5B/url%5D">http://www.law.harvard.edu/admissions/jd/apply/classprofile/</a>
<a href="http://www.law.yale.edu/admissions/fastfacts.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.law.yale.edu/admissions/fastfacts.asp</a></p>
<p>That's a decent difference. However, to address my post best, you'd need to have cross-admit data. I am quite sure that Yale wins the majority of cross admits with HLS, just as Harvard wins the majority of cross admits with Yale for undergrad. </p>
<p>Slipper - you're right. I will adjust the data.</p>
<p>
School : 04-05 : 05-06 : Average : Class Size : Percentage</p>
<ol>
<li> Yale - 113 - 78 - 95.5 - 1315 - 7.26%</li>
<li> Harvard - 89 - 79 - 84 - 1686 - 4.98%</li>
<li> Princeton - 34 - 31 - 32.5 - 1200 - 2.70%</li>
<li> Stanford - 42 - 37 - 39.5 - 1646 - 2.40%</li>
<li> Williams - 12 - 12 - 12 - 534 - 2.25%</li>
<li> Amherst - 9 - 9 - 9 - 433 - 2.08%</li>
<li> Swarthmore - 6 - 5 - 5.5 - 370 - 1.49%</li>
<li> Columbia - 18 - 21 - 19.5 - 1086 - 1.42%</li>
<li> Dartmouth - 13 - 16 - 14.5 - 1086 - 1.34%</li>
<li> Brown - 17 - 13 - 15 - 1466 - 1.02%</li>
<li> Wesleyan - 7 - 7 - 7 - 720 - 0.97%</li>
<li> Claremont Mckenna - 2 - 2 - 2 - 294 - 0.68%</li>
<li> Pomona - 2 - 3 - 2.5 - 379 - 0.66%</li>
<li> Duke - 13 - 9 - 11 - 1683 - 0.65%</li>
<li> Chicago - 7 - 8 - 7.5 - 1259 - 0.60%</li>
<li> Barnard - 3 - 2 - 3.5 - 556 - 0.45%</li>
<li> Middlebury - 2 - 3 - 2.5 - 563 - 0.44%</li>
<li> Georgetown - 7 - 6 - 6.5 - 1606 - 0.40%</li>
<li> Brandeis - 4 - 2 - 3 - 765 - 0.39%</li>
<li> Berkeley - 16 - 16 - 16 - 4167 - 0.39%</li>
<li> Northwestern - 7 - 8 - 7.5 - 2062 - 0.36%</li>
<li> MIT - 2 - 5 - 3.5 - 1002 - 0.35%</li>
<li> Notre Dame - 7 - 7 - 7 - 2039 - 0.34%</li>
<li> Wellesley - 1 - 3 - 2 - 586 - 0.34%</li>
<li> Washington & Lee - 1 - 2 - 2.5 - 450 - 0.33%</li>
<li> Haverford - 1 - 1 - 1 - 314 - 0.32%</li>
<li> Penn - 6 - 9 - 7.5 - 2373 - 0.32%</li>
<li> Oberlin - 2 - 2 - 2 - 718 - 0.28%</li>
<li> Emory - 4 - 5 - 4.5 - 1465 - 0.27%</li>
<li> Yeshiva - 2 - 2 - 2 - 750 - 0.27%</li>
<li> Virginia - 10 - 10 - 10 - 3905 - 0.26%</li>
<li> Grinnell - 1 - 1 - 1 - 405 - 0.25%</li>
<li> WUSTL - 3 - 4 - 3.5 - 1470 - 0.24%</li>
<li> Tulane - 2 - 3 - 2.5 - 1115 - 0.24%</li>
<li> Bowdoin - 1 - 1 - 1 - 474 - 0.21%</li>
<li> Rice - 2 - 1 - 1.5 - 713 - 0.21%</li>
<li> Cornell - 6 - 7 - 6.5 - 3188 - 0.20%</li>
<li> Colgate - 1 - 2 - 1.5 - 744 - 0.20%</li>
<li> Vanderbilt - 3 - 3 - 3- 1590 - 0.19%</li>
<li> UCLA - 7 - 8 - 7.5 - 4811 - 0.16%</li>
<li> W&M - 3 - 1 - 2 - 1349 - 0.15%</li>
<li> USC - 5 - 3 - 4 - 2763 - 0.14%</li>
<li> UNC - 5 - 6 - 5.5 - 3807 - 0.14%</li>
<li> Michigan - 5 - 8 - 6.5 - 5060 - 0.14%</li>
<li> Carleton - 1 - 0 - 0.5 - 504 - 0.10%</li>
<li> UT - 5 - 8 - 6.5 - 7417 - 0.09%</li>
<li> BC - 1 - 3 - 2 - 2284 - 0.09%</li>
<li> NYU - 3 - 5 - 4 - 4740 - 0.08%</li>
<li> JHU - 2 - 0 - 1 - 1207 - 0.08%</li>
<li> Washington St. - 5 - 4 - 4.5 - 5475 - 0.08%</li>
<li> Tufts - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1281 - 0.08%</li>
<li> Vassar - 1 - 0 - 0.5 - 668 - 0.07%</li>
<li> Wisconsin - 5 - 3 - 4 - 5643 - 0.07%</li>
<li> UCSD - 2 - 3 - 2.5 - 4589 - 0.05%</li>
<li> Wake - 0 - 1 - 0.5 - 1122 - 0.04%</li>
<li> Lehigh - 1 - 0 - 0.5 - 1217 - 0.04%</li>
<li> UCI - 2 - 1 - 1.5 - 4839 - 0.03%</li>
<li> UIUC - 2 - 1 - 1.5 - 7172 - 0.02%</li>
<li> Penn St. - 0 - 1 - 0.5 - 8039 - 0.01%</li>
</ol>
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<p>Updated to include Fu numbers in Columbia University's data.</p>
<p>
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I am quite sure that Yale wins the majority of cross admits with HLS, just as Harvard wins the majority of cross admits with Yale for undergrad.
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I'm not so sure that's true in absolute numbers. Don't forget, Harvard's entering class is 3 times the size of Yale's, so a 9% advantage in Yale's yield doesn't necessarily mean that Yale wins the majority of cross-admits. Even though Yale has been continuously rated #1 by US News, Harvard still has a name that, among the general public, carries greater weight. Just as Harvard has the #1 undergrad yield despite Princeton being consistently ranked higher.</p>
<p>For example, in 2004, 4 Penn grads were accepted to YLS, and 0 attended, and in 2003, 2 Penn grads were accepted to YLS, and again 0 attended. </p>
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Don't forget, Harvard's entering class is 3 times the size of Yale's, so a 9% advantage in Yale's yield doesn't necessarily mean that Yale wins the majority of cross-admits.
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<p>True, but my claim is not based on their individual yields, but the cross-admit data. I will find it.</p>
<p>You mean to tell me that the secondary education and vocal performance majors at Northwestern AREN'T going to law school?????</p>