New Zealand question - It's No Error

<p>What sadistic bastards…There’s practically no way not to have 5 NE affect your thinking because there’s only been like 2 released tests that have had 5-6 NE…Could I get an 800 with -1?</p>

<p>If you get 11 essay or better then yes.</p>

<p>Someone should petition to throw this questions out!</p>

<p>I can’t cite a grammar rule for you, but I am certain that the error is “when,” which should be “that.” </p>

<p>A “when” clause could be used in this sentence (to describe something that happened during the 1980’s), but in that case, the “when” clause would still need to be followed by a “that” clause, stating the outcome that did not happen until the 1980’s.</p>

<p>I think the IB English teacher is right. The phrase “when musicians began to reach an international audience” would modify “the 1980’s.” If you replace “the 1980’s” with “later” you will all see that “that” is correct.</p>

<p>Here’s a modified sentence, containing the “when” clause, to illustrate the points made by the IB English teacher and Hunt:</p>

<p>Although New Zealand had fostered music for decades, it was not until the 1980s, when Kiri Te Kanawa became an operatic star, that musicians from New Zealand began to reach an international audience.</p>

<p>(Probably erroneous on facts, but “No Error” gramatically.)</p>

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<p>LOL. My opinion is indeed nothing else than an opinion. For the record, I do believe in the value of discussing questions. However, there are limitations in discussing UNRELEASED questions. For starters, you need to rely on the collective ability to reproduce the question correctly. And that is a tall order. </p>

<p>My suggestion to relax and wait is not only based on the imprecise question, but also because NONE of the suggested answers can provide a definitive answer. </p>

<p>The only thing that matters is what the test writer considers the correct answer.</p>

<p>oh wow…5 No Errors? I think I might have had around 3 in the last writing section and like another 2-3 in the 35 question one…</p>

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<p>I know it’s an opinion. That wasn’t intended for you. That was aimed at people like herozero who think “xiggi has spoken. we must wait now and not discuss anymore.”</p>

<p>And if the test writer is flawed in thinking, which is very possible and has happened before, then is opinion still the only thing that matters? No. :)</p>

<p>cortana i was kidding…obviously…i didnt actually mean…EVERYONE SHUT UP…LORD XIGGI HAS SPOKEN…</p>

<p>It’s “that,” unequivocally, unless the question as transcribed from memory above is in error. “It was not until [A] that **” is a common structure.</p>

<p>When [A] is a time, “when” is also acceptable, but people seem to disagree still. Whatever :D</p>

<p>the almighty silverturtle told me that he sides with Crazybandit’s post. though, something he and I both agree on (and I’m sure all of you too) is that this question was silly. there’s not much to be gained from it. so good luck everyone.</p>

<p>Just a food for thought. Go go Google scholar and search “it was not until”. You’ll find that every single citation uses the it was not until x that format. Search “it was not until * when” and you’ll find that in every single instance the “when” is only used as a modifier followed w/ a that to complete the idiom.</p>

<p>800 WR scorer here. I’m fairly certain it should be “that” unless, as marvin100 suggested, it was transcribed incorrectly. If nothing else, “when” is unidiomatic unless used in the manner suggested by QuantMech.</p>

<p>Am I the only one who thought it was ‘reach’? I thought it would be ‘reach out to.’</p>

<p>Were there any idiom questions on this past test? I seem to remember an incorrect idiom: “comply to” or was it “tolerable to?”</p>

<p>Although I picked E (No Error), I now believe that the answer is probably C (When). I’m also a 790-800 scorer.</p>

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<p>Then why were you trying to figure out how to cancel your score?</p>

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<p>Did you mean a 790-800 out of 2400 ;)?</p>

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<p>STALKER!! lol</p>