Newsweek Crowns 25 "New Ivies"

College Search & Selection
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<p>Newsweek, in their Kaplan College Guide, identifies 25 schools as the "new Ivies": <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14325172/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14325172/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I think it's a good thing to get students thinking about more than a handful of ultra-selective schools. These 25 colleges, though, are getting pretty darn selective themselves. </p>

<p>I also don't care much for "new Ivies" terminology. In the general population, there's a lot of confusion as to what an "Ivy League" school is. I don't know how many times I've heard, "Is that school considered to be Ivy League?" or "I heard they've improved so much that now they are Ivy League." Not here at CC, but around the country, lots of people seem to think "Ivy League" is some kind of honorific bestowed on good colleges, and articles like this won't do anything to dispel the confusion.</p>

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<p>^Yeah gives students a chance to think about other schools for a change. One of my good friends is going to Carnegie Mellon and I can tell you its getting pretty selective especially in the electrical engineering/computer engineering major. As for calling them ivies I don't think that's too good of an idea I mean most people don't know that many top universities simply aren't ivy.
For example just the other day my dad was talking about Stanford and he says: its one of the top ivies in the country you know.
I had to explain that it isn't an ivy but obviously par with ivies and this is coming from a parent whose son is going to Stanford in the fall!!!</p>

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<p>Great list. I expected that MIT, Stanford, Cal, Caltech, Amherst, Williams and Swarthmore are considered part of the Ivy League, so I did not look for them. But I am surprised that Carleton, Georgetown, Grinnell and Haverford and Pomona (to name a few) were not included in the list.</p>

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<p>...and Duke has already received more than its share of recognition from Newsweek in the past few months! :)</p>

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<p>I am also suprised that macalaster was included but not carleton</p>

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<p>"But I am surprised that Carleton, Georgetown, Grinnell and Haverford and Pomona (to name a few) were not included in the list."</p>

<p>Not liberal enough perhaps?</p>

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<p>this is a load of crap: new ivy = stupidest idea for an article and serves to placate those feeling inferior because they're not going to an ivy league university or MIT, Stanford or Duke. </p>

<p>lol</p>

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<p>pomona was on the list...claremont colleges..</p>

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<p>alexandre: harvey-mudd and pomona were included, they were filed under the claremont schools.</p>

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<p>True, I didn't notice that they included all the Claremont colleges. But I also noticed that they left out Duke and Northwestern.</p>

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<p>Including BigStateU in a list that proposes to provide an Ivy like experience seems crazy.</p>

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<p>I'm so glad they lumped the 5Cs together for once. And yeah Duke/Northwestern>>>>>>>>>Boston College.</p>

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<p>BC, colby, colgate? kenyon, macalester? nyu, notre dame? what ever happened to duke, northwestern, and carleton? </p>

<p>(pomona was on there)</p>

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<p>This list is screwed up, how could they leave off Northwestern but include NYU and Notre Dame?</p>

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<p>Actually, even some of the schools in the Ivy League aren't "Ivy" in the eyes of the public -- and also Newsweek.</p>

<p>Note that the article's introduction says, "The nation's elite colleges these days include more than Harvard, Yale and Princeton." It is unthinkable that it would have said "The nation's elite colleges these days include more than Brown, Cornell, and the University of Pennsylvania." And if it did say that, people would be thinking, "Yeah, Penn State is a cool place."</p>

<p>How the heck could they ignore Northwestern? It should have been either in the paragraph at the beginning of the article where they listed several schools well-known to be world-class, such as Stanford and University of Chicago, or it should have been one of the 25.</p>

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<p>Bandit, I attended a "BigStateU" for my undergrad and an Ivy League for graduate school and I noticed a lot of similarities. In fact, with the exception of the athletics, they were practically identical.</p>

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<p>Cornell and Michigan are closer than say Brown or Princeton and Michigan.....</p>

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<p>Absolutely, but Cornell is an Ivy League, and it is not unique among the Ivies. Penn and Columbia are very similar to Cornell.</p>

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<p>I think the reason they didn't include Duke and Northwestern is because these two schools aren't really that "hidden". A lot of people had already known them as very good schools for quite a while.</p>

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<p>Yup, I think it's the same reason why Stanford, MIT, Caltech, Duke, Cal, etc. aren't on that list either.</p>