<p>Apparently it was the 2003 US News rankings....at least it is exactly what the rankings were for 2003....so totally useless.....I don't think there is any chance they'd be the same as those this year.</p>
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<p>lol. my thoughts exactly.</p>
<p>I would not be one bit surpised if the cross admit stats between Vandy and Emory are at least 80%-20% in Vandy's favor.</p>
<p>Says briantheman?</p>
<p>where online can you find cross-admission rates?</p>
<p>pasch, they're around. it's a tough thing to accurately survey though from a third party position, hence any data you find will in all probability be unreliable or outdated.</p>
<p>jkh411, emory was a potential for me, albeit i wasn't very worried about admisison nor truly that interested in attending from the get go. i did, however, visit both schools and from the limited selection of students in similar situations that i had the privilege of meeting, i would guess without hesitance that this year's cross-admit stats were 90%/10%. in other words...every 9 out of 10 people to whom i spoke that found both schools in their list of final prospectives were leaning heavily towards vanderbilt.</p>
<p>but before we go too far, let's recognize the fact that emory is of course at the very least a decent school. don't knock the lesser man in excess fellars</p>
<p>Revealed Preference Ranking --
<a href="http://www.nber.org/papers/W10803%5B/url%5D">http://www.nber.org/papers/W10803</a></p>
<p>I went vanderbilt over emory too.</p>
<p>Since 1991, in the USNWR Rankings:</p>
<p>Emory has been ranked higher than Vanderbilt 11 times
Vanderbilt has been ranked higher than Emory 4 times
The school have been tied once</p>
<p>Making up statistics will in no way help Vandy's cause in August... plus cross- admit rates don't affect the USNWR rankings.
- If "emory is of course at the very least a decent school" what does that make Vanderbilt??</p>
<p>I just can't see how Vanderbilt can go down. All of its stats USNWR looks at are better (e.g. admit rate down 5%, avg SAT increased). I'm not saying they'll shoot into the top 10, or even try to by doing what WUSTL does. They don't care about rankings, but I do (somewhat). I'd like to see top 15, and i don't necessarily think its a stretch.</p>
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I applaud Emory for its spike in the ranks, but that doesnt mean that tis suddenly going to zoom right past up Vandy,
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<p>Emory hasn't "spiked in the ranks" any more than Vanderbilt.</p>
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<p>It certainly has the qualifications to do so, and has done so once. Might wanna buy that coffin.</p>
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They don't care about rankings
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<p>I wouldn't be so quick as to speak for the entire adminstration. Every top 20 university cares about their image, and that includes ranking.</p>
<p>Up here in NY most of the fellas i talk to think very highly of Emory. Those that have had to choose between the two universities have shown a distinct preference for Emory. On another note, any yahoo can make up numbers to make their school sound more impressive but it just comes off as pathetic and shows a certian inferiority complex.</p>
<p>Rice is a notch above both schools. Not by much... but the distinction can be made. To call either vanderbilt or emory a, "lesser," school when compared to the other is just ridiculous. I understand its hard to be fair and objective when it comes to ones undergraduate institution... but damn, just try.</p>
<p>jkh411, in reference to your question as to what type of school vanderbilt might be, i would say it's a premier institution with arguably the greatest level of balance of any university in the world. "the kicker".</p>
<p>in reference to an inquiry into the fabrication of statistics, i fully agree. only from my personal experience alone in the past year or so can i make those estimations. i'm sure it's a closer fight.</p>
<p>as you're getting back to the rankings discussion, i don't have much more to say for the moment. the entire system is horrid. i truly hope you didn't actually take that as a factor in your college decision process.</p>
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<p>Vanderbilt has been prestigious in the south for nearly a century. Literary movements such as the Fugitives (and later the Agrarians) in the 1920s made Vanderbilt a fountainhead of New Criticism – the dominant mode of textual analysis. Throughout Vanderbilt’s history they have hosted the nation’s most powerful speakers (John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., etc.) – a tradition which continues today through IMPACT Symposium.</p>
<p>Conversely, Emory has only been considered prestigious by many since the 1980s (after the Woodruff donation). Emory also owes part of its existence directly to Vanderbilt. When Vanderbilt cut its ties with the Methodist Church, the Emory president persuaded them to build a new Methodist school in Atlanta. Saying that Emory is the more “historic” school is completely ridiculous and factually inaccurate.</p>
<p>As for rankings, Vanderbilt ranks higher in EVERY single ranking aside from US News (which they are tied in). Revealed Preference, UK Times, Economist, Newsweek Magazine among others rate Vandy higher.</p>
<p>Also – to the poster “SUNY” I am from New York and Vanderbilt stills wins most cross-admit battles here. The only towns where it is close are towns with heavy Jewish populations (Great Neck, Roslyn, etc.) and even this is beginning to change. Vanderbilt wins in a landslide in the WASPy towns (Cold Spring Harbor, Locust Valley, etc). As for New York City – take a look at matriculation numbers from elite high schools. Collegiate, which is arguably the most prestigious school in NYC, has enrolled 12 students to Vanderbilt while only 2 to Emory. Nearly every elite prep school in the Northeast favors Vanderbilt–Phillips Andover, Groton, Deerfield, Hotchkiss, St. Paul’s, etc. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.collegiateschool.org/program/college/matriculation.asp?bhcp=1%5B/url%5D">http://www.collegiateschool.org/program/college/matriculation.asp?bhcp=1</a>
<a href="http://www.groton.org/home/content.asp?id=580%5B/url%5D">http://www.groton.org/home/content.asp?id=580</a>
<a href="http://www.deerfield.edu/Academics/index.cfm?page_ID=74%5B/url%5D">http://www.deerfield.edu/Academics/index.cfm?page_ID=74</a>
<a href="http://www.andover.edu/cco/matrics/default.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.andover.edu/cco/matrics/default.asp</a></p>
<p>How did this thread end up being an Emory vs. Vandy one? They're both good schools. I am surprised that Vandy is a top choice for many New England prep school grads , though. </p>
<p>One point I would like to make is that Emory gets a lot of respect even though its pretty even with Vandy. Vandy on the other hand is always questioned regardless of its excellent stats.</p>
<p>Duke beats both schools hands down.</p>
<p>hahah but in all seriousness these rankings are so arbitrary. there are more important things to consider than just prestige, which is essentially what the peer-assessment is. Are the people reviewing these schools actually reviewing each school's respective curriculum? No, and that's the reason why neither Emory nor Vanderbilt will crack the top 10 despite the fact that they both are very good schools.</p>
<p>brand_182, if you're not going to Vanderbilt, why are you in this thread? Every time something comes up about Vanderbilt, you feel the need to chime in with your two cents. Most of the time, you display adamantly negative views against Vandy. If you don't like the school, stay out of the the Vanderbilt forum.</p>
<p>LMAO. I like how I am one of the five or so people that doesn't praise Vandy along with the rest of the thread and you single me out. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>BTW, what did I say? Oh yeah, I said Vandy and Emory's rise in the rankings is relatively equal, WashU has the qualifications to be a top 10 school, and all top 20 schools care about their image. Yeah, I must hate Vanderbilt, especially since only one of my comments even mentions the school. Good conclusion.</p>
<p>As for me coming on here and making one post, I check the latest posts from time to time. This particular thread title looked interesting, and I didn't even notice it was about Vanderbilt until I started reading.</p>