NJ Medical School/UMDNJ are they the same?

<p>How are NJ Medical School and UMDNJ related?
Are they related at all?
Is there a BS/MD or BA/MD program for Rutgers/UMDNJ?<br>
If there such a program, how many students are taken into it each year?
Do they use Robertwood Johnson Hospital for teaching in such programs?
Do Robertwood Johnson staff involve in the interviews for selection?</p>

<p>-hypermom</p>

<p>If there is anyone who is willing to answer your questions, it will be me. It was my dream to get into Rutger's BA/MD medical program. Everyday of my senior year I constantly thought about it. Although I was interviewed, they did not select me. I guess they really do want NJ residents and maybe they have a certain quota for how many Asians they can accept. Oh well. I am thankful to get into 1 program-RPI/AMC. Besides, it's not that far from NYC/NJ!</p>

<p>Here is some information for you though. <a href="http://lifesci.rutgers.edu/%7Ehpo/BAMD.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://lifesci.rutgers.edu/~hpo/BAMD.htm&lt;/a>
UMDNJ is the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey. New Jersey Medical School runs the BA/MD medical program with 8 or so undergraduate colleges, including Rutgers-Newark. <a href="http://njms.umdnj.edu/education/admissions/seven_year_ba_md.cfm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://njms.umdnj.edu/education/admissions/seven_year_ba_md.cfm&lt;/a>
Anyways, this year they interviewed 100+ and only accepted 34. Since each university may have a quota of students, I think Rutgers has room for only 14 students since that is how many were accepted there. As a result, make sure you apply to as many affiliated undergraduate universitie as possible. Make sure you apply to other medical programs. Just to give you a sense about how competitive this year was, I applied to 9 medical programs, got 3 interviews, and accepted into only 1! It is an ultra competitive program. If you are not a NJ resident, you better be absolutely extraordinary. Even if you are a NJ resident, this program is comparable to getting into Princeton. </p>

<p>Good luck though. Maybe Hydrogen3k (in Rutgers/NJMS) and FoodisGood (next year student for TCNJ/NJMS) can give you some advice. I know that Rutgers has a sophomore matriculation program with NJMS and Robert Wood Johnson Medical School. Rutgers New Brunswick-NJMS...WHILE Rutgers Newark and Rutgers Camden have their sophomore matriculation programs with Robert Wood Johnson Medical School.</p>

<p>Once again, good luck. All I can say is that this year's competition was insanely crazy and I am very glad that I am not applying years from now.</p>

<p>hey, sickofflorida basically covered most of it but let me add a little more. The Rutgers BA/MD program is strictly for UMDNJ-NJMS (not Robert Wood). </p>

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I know that Rutgers has a sophomore matriculation program with NJMS and Robert Wood Johnson Medical School. Rutgers New Brunswick-NJMS...WHILE Rutgers Newark and Rutgers Camden have their sophomore matriculation programs with Robert Wood Johnson Medical School.

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<p>This is incorrect. Only Rutgers-Newark offers the BA/MD for high school students. Rutgers-New Brunswick offers the sophomore matriculation program to Robert Wood Johnson but I heard it was quite competitive and hard to get into (You apply during the sophomore year of college). I don't believe Rutgers-Camden offers any type of BA/MD program</p>

<p>If you do choose to apply to Rutgers-Newark, please be aware of that because you will be spending 7 years in Newark. I did not apply thru Rutgers. I applied thru TCNJ, Drew, and Stevens. I did get admitted to this program and yes, it was quite competitive. The stats were something like 200 applied, 30-40 got in.</p>

<p>You are interviewed by a professor at the undergrad and a doctor at the medical school. Good luck and definitely apply to many programs because the acceptances are very random.</p>

<p>Quite agree. As mentioned, I am part of the 7 year BA/MD program with Rutgers. UMDNJ has 8 campuses with two medical school: Robert Wood Johnson and New Jersey Medical School. NJMS is in Newark, RWJ in New Brunswick. Difference: not much...RWJ, though, is more research based and NJMS is more towards practicing...but really no difference.
In the 7 year program, from high school, you go to NJMS and a undergrad. school of choice. RWJ is not involved whatsoever. Competition is very tough!!! I was talking to some of the students who got in this year and they have left Princeton and other ivies to attend. So, if you are subpar, don't think you'll have a chance.
No, there is no quota for asians...all the students at Rutgers BA/MD are asian...so racial preference does not really exist. Around 36 people selected by NJMS selected...most attend.
There is no teaching for the 7 year program at RWJ...rotations are at University Hospital, Hackensack, and others. </p>

<p>Yes, foodisgood is correct in that you have to spend 7 years in Newark... but it is not a bad school. And as you are going to med. school in Newark, it is good to have some experience. Also, Rutgers-Newark gives you $4000/year more in scholarship!</p>

<p>Also, you probably wants stats. So, here's mine:</p>

<p>Haven't been asked this in some time. But here it goes.
GPA: 4.27/4.3 (Valedictorian of Highland Park HS)
SAT: 1550
SAT II: All 800s (Math IIC, chem...)
APs: All 5s (Bio, chem. lit, comp...)</p>

<p>Extra Curricular: Captain of Varsity tennis team, president of volunteer club, president of science club, president of environmental club, and treasurer for Future Business Leaders of America club.
Awards: This is my strength!
SCHOLARSHIPS AND AWARDS
1.Toshiba/National Science Teacher’s Associations ExploraVision International Science Contest Overall 1st Place Winner (2005) <visit www.exploravision.org="">
2.Valedictorian of Highland Park High School’s Class of 2005
3.U.S. National Chemistry Olympiad National Finalist with Honors (2004, 2005) [Ranked in the Top 50 chemistry students in the nation]
4.Top 10 Students in New Jersey for Chemistry II Science League (2004)
5.Top 10 in New Jersey for Chemistry I Science League (2003)
6.Merck Science Day Silver Medalist (2003)
7.Top 10 Students in New Jersey for Biology II Science League (2005)
8.Top 10 in New Jersey for Biology I Science League (2002)
9.U.S. National Biology Olympiad State Finalist (2005)
10.Farleigh-Dickinson Young Entrepreneur Business Idea 1st Place Winner (2004)
11.Edward J. Blounstein Scholar (2005)
12.Rutgers’ Presidential Scholarship for Outstanding Achievement (2005)
13.Farleigh-Dickinson Young Entrepreneur Business Idea Semi Finalist (2004)
14.IMC National Math Competition Winner (2004)
15.Maryilyn Williams Physicians Award for Achievement in the Biological Sciences (2005)
16.Semifinalist in the National Council of Teachers of English Achievement Essay Contest (2004)
17.Mercy Memorial Hospital’s Volunteer Award (204)
18.American Invitational Mathematics Exam – 2nd round of the Math Olympiads (2005)
19.Certificat de Merite from Association of American French Professors (2002, 2004)
20.AP Scholar Award (2004, 2005)
21.Certificate of Achievement presented by Middlesex County Bar Foundation (2004, 2005)
22.Robert W. Stevens Memorial Award (2005)
23.Certificate of Membership into the National Honor Society (2004)
24.Recognition and Distinguished Achievement Award presented by the Board of Education for outstanding performance in the science league (2002, 2003, 2004)
25.National Merit Commended Scholarship (2005)
26.Princeton Plasma Laboratory Science Bowl (2005)
27.Varsity Letters – Tennis and Cross Country (2005, 2004, 2003, 2002)
28.Farleigh-Dickinson Young Entrepreneur Business Idea Semi Finalist (2005)
29.Farleigh-Dickinson Young Entrepreneur Business Idea Finalist (2005)
30.Farleigh-Dickinson Young Entrepreneur Business Idea Overall Winner (2005)
31.HPHS Athlete of the Year (2005)
32.Nobel Foundation University Scholarship Grant (2005)
33.Tylenol National Scholarship Semifinalist (2005)
34.Jay H. Dakelman Scholar Athlete Award (2005)
35.Highland Park High School Outstanding Varsity Athlete Award (2005)
36.Irving Cooper Memorial Science Award for Excellence in the Biosciences (2005)</visit></p>

<p>Recognition in the Media</p>

<ol>
<li>Time Magazine</li>
<li>USA Today</li>
<li>Star Ledger</li>
<li>Home News Tribune</li>
<li>The Indicator (American Chemical Society Publication)</li>
<li>Scripps Howard Foundation Wire</li>
<li>Kansas Infozine</li>
<li>NSTA Publications</li>
<li>Farleigh Dickinson Press</li>
<li>Highland Park Local News</li>
<li>CN8</li>
<li>NBC</li>
<li>CNN</li>
</ol>

<p>Programs: Nobel Foundation Summer Research Program (Worked extensively on how Virus Induced Gene Silencing can be used as a tool in functional genomics) [Summer 2004, 2005]</p>

<p>University of Medicine and Dentistry New Jersey’s Mini Medical School [2002]</p>

<p>Rutger’s Model United Nations – Debated on medical treatments for Aborigines in Australia [2001]</p>

<p>Mercy Memorial Hospital’s Volunteen Program, Oklahoma (Looked after recovery patients and shadowed surgeons)
[Summer 2004, 2005]</p>

<p>I hope this helps,
Amit</p>

<p>One more thing...you can complete the program in 6 years if you have enough AP credits or are willing to take summer courses.</p>

<p>(Also, foodisgood, are you doing any summer internships...if so, you may want to inquire about getting credit for your work. I spent my summer before entrance at a labe and I could hav received credit for it...but I didn't know about the policy.)</p>

<p>Okay, well let me get the facts straight about sophomore matriculation. I called the pre-med advisor at Rutgers New Brunswick and he told me that there were sophomore matriculation programs at all 3 campuses. Rutgers Newark has the BA/MD program as well as a sophomore matriculation program with Robert Wood Johnson. Rutger New Brunswick is in the process of soon getting a BA/MD medical program but currently has only a sophomore matriculation program with NJMS. Rutgers Camden has a sophomore matriculation program with NJMS also. </p>

<p>In regards to how selective these sophomore matriculation programs are...Robert Wood Johnson is by far more selective, since you spend 4 years at Rutgers Newark and only 3 years at Robert Wood Johnson. In effect, you save 1 year of medical school tuition. I found out the following for acceptance rates...1 year about 35 applied and 9 to 14 were accepted...Another year nearly 80 applied and around 15 were accepted. VERY COMPETITIVE. I was thinking about doing this but I do not think it is worth the risk. I may do my externships and residencies at Robert Wood Johnson instead.</p>

<p>For Rutgers New Brunswick however, their sophomore matriculation program with NJMS started in 2003 and seems less competitive...you spend 3 years at Rutgers New Brunswick and 4 years at NJMS, so you do not save any medical school tuition. Anyways, I found out that in 1 year about 15 or 16 applied and that around 7 to 9 were accepted. I am estimating what I heard from memory.</p>

<p>I hope this helps.</p>

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In regards to how selective these sophomore matriculation programs are...Robert Wood Johnson is by far more selective, since you spend 4 years at Rutgers Newark and only 3 years at Robert Wood Johnson. In effect, you save 1 year of medical school tuition.

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<p>sickofflorida, how do you skip one year of medical school? Are you sure about this? I'm pretty sure that you can skip a year of undergrad but definitely not a year of med school.</p>

<p>hydrogen3k, thx a lot for the tip. I was not aware of this and will definitely look into it. I was planning to take the summer off to "recuperate" but if I can get credit, why not.</p>

<p>This is what the pre-med advisor told me and it is also on one of the links I posted. It sounded weird to me but I saw it on the Rutgers Health Profession Office website.</p>

<p>wow, I just read the link and you're correct. I've never heard of that type of a program. Interesting.</p>

<p>Sophomore Marticulation is quite tricky as ties become quite important. People who have parents who are professors or have connections to NJMS and RWJ will get a lot more preference. All three campuses have some sort of program, but I think RWJ is restricted to New Brunswick kids. Yes, it is true that your fourth year of Undergrad. is credited for medical school and you enter med. school as a second year. But I don't think it is a good idea as you will not be going to the medical school until the second year. You need to get used to med. school, so it is not advisable to take that route. But, on the plus side, you don't have to pay one year tuition at med. school, which a full ride will surely compensate for undergrad.</p>