Non-HYP Ivies

<p>Dartmouth by a mileeeeeeee. Not in a million years brown or columbia. Hated penn. =d</p>

<p>Brown or Columbia.</p>

<p>Would never consider Yale, Princeton, Dartmouth, or Cornell even if they gave me a full-tuition scholarship. (Yes, I’m serious.)</p>

<p>^ what do you have against yale?</p>

<p>I just couldn’t see myself there. Never, ever. (Did a full-blown visit and everything.) Same for all the others.</p>

<p>^ My feelings are the same towards Cornell, Columbia, Princeton, and Harvard.</p>

<p>definitely and obviously brown</p>

<p>Brown - 14
Penn - 14
Dartmouth - 11
Columbia - 8
Cornell - 7</p>

<p>Columbia–Dartmouth-- Brown–Cornell–penn</p>

<p>I’ve always had this impression that Brown was for people who wanted to have fun in college and weren’t really interested in academics/career/future/etc. </p>

<p>Does Brown have a strength in any academic departments?</p>

<p>Penn/Wharton
Followed by Columbia or Dartmouth</p>

<p>My biggest concern about Brown is getting a good job offer when I graduate…</p>

<p>Brown is number 12 on top feeder schools (WSJ). In 2006 (last available data), 92% of graduating seniors were employed or going to graduate school (measured during the summer after graduation, <a href=“Office of Institutional Research | Brown University”>Office of Institutional Research | Brown University).</p>

<p>We have some of the best undergraduate departments in the world for areas as diverse as computer science, neuroscience, planetary geology, screenwriting, classics, applied mathematics, American civilization, etc.</p>

<p>I’m not really sure how a school that has an 11% acceptance rate, rejects 70% of those with a perfect ACT (and about 80% of those who have a perfect score in any one section of the SATI), as well as rejects 74% of valedictorians that apply is for “people who wanted to have fun in college and weren’t really interested in academics/career/future/etc”.</p>

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<p>Brown’s greatest strength is by far its students.</p>

<p>Penn - 15
Brown - 14
Dartmouth - 11
Columbia - 9
Cornell - 7</p>

<p>Not sure what the Yale Law School rankings is supposed to show…that lots of students from a particular school want to go into law? Why law as opposed to b school or med school?</p>

<p>Brown isn’t really known for its academics or faculty research quality unlike say Cornell, Penn or Columbia. But at the undergraduate level that is less important- you don’t need one of the world’s most famous chemists or physicists to teach your 101 classes. Actually at the undergraduate level, most of the material is from textbooks anyway which is why you can’t go wrong at any ivy.</p>

<p>It’s interesting considering how selective the school is, why it hasn’t been able to rise above #15-17 in the past decade or so… consistenly lagging behind Northwestern and WUSTL.</p>

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<p>Is it a research powerhouse? No, to say it’s not known for academics (as an area, not as people) and that undergraduate level material is from a textbook is ridiculous.</p>

<p>Brown offers one of the best undergraduate-focused educations out there for an institution that does any kind of research, and it manages to produce quite a bit of top notch research in specific 'fields. The reason our research production doesn’t match that of other schools is probably at least half due to the size of the graduate school at Brown, about 1700 students. These are the people producing 75% of what you see published in most fields. If you check out the USNWR World Ranking, you’ll find that Brown has a 99/100 for citations per faculty.</p>

<p>The reason Brown is held back has largely to do with it’s somewhat low PA score (a 4.4) and financial resources per student that aren’t as high as some rivals (mostly due to not having large research centers pulling in a ton of money). Brown is a victim of trying to have its foot in two worlds-- the liberal arts college with tremendous focus on undergraduates and research university, and as a result it fairs less well on direct comparison to other schools which are structured in a fundamentally different way.</p>

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<p>If Brown engaged in the “numbers game” that a number of those ranked above it have clearly done, its ranking would have risen over the years (or more to the point, would have kept on par with others).</p>

<p>I see Brown as a LAC</p>

<p>Cornell, with out a doubt. I love that place.</p>